OOC: House Millithor in COSQ part 4

[Endur]

My point was that if the party wished to prosecute the war against Irae, they would succeed. But there would be a price; it would not be free.

Likewise, if you try to convert to another religion, there would be a price, it would not be free.

That was my point. Goals can be accomplished, but there is a price.

With regards to your point, Divine Intervention would mean that some other party of heroes would defeat the forces of evil in Maerimydra while the surviving drow have other non-Maerimydra adventures in the down year.

I'm not trying to cause a fight, and to be honest every undead template in the book adds to the parties ELC and helps Kilcif and me, but if where not going to play out this part of the model where going to need to assume that divine intervention happened as it's not fair to anyone to simply say hey your character died...

and live with it... (cool face for the pun not that it was a good one.)

 

[Xael]

Is the total value of the item multiplied with 1.5, or only the cheaper parts?

Cheaper parts.

That's what happens when I use the SRD for reference- material. (I don't even own the core books )

Ah. Well that explains it.

Well, that's because you overlooked somebody in the module.

Oh, now I found him. He's a wuss. Ok, seriously, if we use "Duhh, must enter close combat..." -rating tactics, then yeah, he's pretty much impossible. I don't see what the problem is with him. He's got some serious drawbacks compared to us. He'd only slow us down a bit.

Torellan could almost kill him alone (if you convert his DR to 3.5, and even without that) with a little planning.

 

[Xael]

I don't own the module, but I have read GFunk's story Hour (an excellent read btw) and I'm guessing you're talking about the temple itself (which is really more of a hazard than an opponent).

He's not.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

My point was that if the party wished to prosecute the war against Irae, they would succeed. But there would be a price; it would not be free.

And my point was simply that you couldn’t assume that they all died. They are smart players, and have always been resourceful enough to find someone else to do the dangerous work that they need done.

So I can see the party living and all of there hired meatshield dying, it might not be realistic, but you cannot say to someone “Hey you character is dead, simply cause I say you have no chance to survive.” (Though technically as a DM you could but I think you would very quickly run out of players.)

It isn’t fair, and it isn’t right.

Serpenteye, sorry about the lack of a post, I’ll fix it if the night stays calm or in the morning after work. Lucky this is the last night for this crap.

 

[Serpenteye]

He's not.

Then what is it? (Spoil me )

 

[Xael]

Then what is it? (Spoil me )

Spoiler: Some kind of a Giga Iron Golem.

 

[Serpenteye]

Spoiler: Some kind of a Giga Iron Golem.

Oh. Right, there's probably a way to bypass or incapacitate it without going into melee. A couple of Wall spells or a Forcecage could probably cut it off from the party while you dealt with more flexible opponents.

 

[Seonaid]

Ok, team, what do you all think? Narcelia will go undead if you all want to go that route. I don't have a preference. Also, Narcelia will try conversion if you all want to go that route (though Pyrex would have the biggest influence in that decision). I don't have a preference there either. If you guys don't give me anything, I'll just say what Pyrex said about Carcelon: Narcelia is alive and still a cleric of Lolth.

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

I'm doing a bit of the tagalong as well; if Tierak becomes undead or converts, she's at a major disadvantage when trying to retain control of the tattered remnants of her House against any living Lolth clerics.

 

[Endur]

Right, but then the history post will basically say that someone else invaded Castle Maerimydra and slew Irae's minions while the party stayed safe and sound.

So I can see the party living and all of there hired meatshield dying, it might not be realistic, but you cannot say to someone “Hey you character is dead, simply cause I say you have no chance to survive.” (Though technically as a DM you could but I think you would very quickly run out of players.)