OOC: House Millithor in COSQ part 4

[Xael]

Hmm, yes, it doesn't look quite right. I recalculated it to 116 points, and that's assuming I bbought the +6 to Int at 12th level (4*4 + 11*4 + 8*7). How did you arrive at 115?

Enhancement bonus to Intelligence doesn't give extra skill points in 3.5 anymore (it was too much trouble to keep track of them suppose).

I counted like this:

First sorcerer level: 4*[2 base +2 Int +1 Human] = 4*5 = 20
Rest of Sorcerer levels: 5*5 = 25
Incantatrix/Incantatar levels: 9*5 = 45
Archmage levels: 5*5 = 25

Total of 115.


Just started doubting that 140 points because it's more that Quertus has...

 

[Serpenteye]

Enhancement bonus to Intelligence doesn't give extra skill points in 3.5 anymore (it was too much trouble to keep track of them suppose).

I counted like this:

First sorcerer level: 4*[2 base +2 Int +1 Human] = 4*5 = 20
Rest of Sorcerer levels: 5*5 = 25
Incantatrix/Incantatar levels: 9*5 = 45
Archmage levels: 5*5 = 25

Total of 115.


Just started doubting that 140 points because it's more that Quertus has...

...I forgot about the Human bonus to skill points.

 

[Pyrex]

I took a look at the Arachne, but the prereqs are a bit much, so I think I'll stick with my plan of cleric/heirophant.

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

One quick question: between my Arachne and Thaumaturge levels, I've got one ECL 18 planar cohort, one familiar at 18th level of benefits, and a Large Monstrous Spider mount with the benefits of being a 7th level paladin's mount. Is there any way I can combine these into a single entity, so as not to be dealing with quite so many creepy crawly things? My thought was to take a bebilith, roughly ECL 18-20, and add the non-hit die benefits of the two class features, overlapping rather than stacking where one was superior.

 

[Dalamar]

Here's the nuts'n'bolts version of Torellan with psychic warrior levels (he has a +22 Spot and Listen before any ranks ). What do you think guys, would you rather hang around with this brawny and clawed Torellon, or the the dexterous, dagger-wielding Torellan?

Str 26 [6 points, +6 racial, +6 enhancement], Dex 26 [6 points, +6 racial, +6 enhancement], Con -- [-- racial], Int 14 [2 points, +2 racial, +2 racial at 11th level], Wis 34 [16 points, +2 racial, +3 levels, +6 enhancement, +5 inherent], Cha 20 [2 points, +4 racial, +6 enhancement]

Feats: Vampire bonus feats, Psionic Body (1st), Psionic Fist (1st Psychic Warrior), Speed of Thought (2nd Psychic Warrior), Weapon Focus (Claw) (3rd), Psionic Meditation (5th Psychic Warrior), Expanded Knowledge (Vigor) (6th),, Unavoidable Strike (8th Psychic Warrior), Greater Psionic Fist (9th), Improved Critical (Claw) (11th Psychic Warrior), Extend Power (12th)

Power Points: 43+72=115, Power save DC 22+power's level
1st (3+1): Claws of the Beast, Inertial Armor, Thicken Skin, Vigor
2nd (3): Body Equilibrium, Hustle, Specified Energy Adaptation,
3rd (3): Claws of the Vampire, Empathic Feedback, Evade Burst
4th (3): Psionic Dimension Door, Psionic Freedom of Movement, Truevenom

 

[Serpenteye]

Here's the nuts'n'bolts version of Torellan with psychic warrior levels (he has a +22 Spot and Listen before any ranks ). What do you think guys, would you rather hang around with this brawny and clawed Torellon, or the the dexterous, dagger-wielding Torellan?

Str 26 [6 points, +6 racial, +6 enhancement], Dex 26 [6 points, +6 racial, +6 enhancement], Con -- [-- racial], Int 14 [2 points, +2 racial, +2 racial at 11th level], Wis 34 [16 points, +2 racial, +3 levels, +6 enhancement, +5 inherent], Cha 20 [2 points, +4 racial, +6 enhancement]

Feats: Vampire bonus feats, Psionic Body (1st), Psionic Fist (1st Psychic Warrior), Speed of Thought (2nd Psychic Warrior), Weapon Focus (Claw) (3rd), Psionic Meditation (5th Psychic Warrior), Expanded Knowledge (Vigor) (6th),, Unavoidable Strike (8th Psychic Warrior), Greater Psionic Fist (9th), Improved Critical (Claw) (11th Psychic Warrior), Extend Power (12th)

Power Points: 43+72=115, Power save DC 22+power's level
1st (3+1): Claws of the Beast, Inertial Armor, Thicken Skin, Vigor
2nd (3): Body Equilibrium, Hustle, Specified Energy Adaptation,
3rd (3): Claws of the Vampire, Empathic Feedback, Evade Burst
4th (3): Psionic Dimension Door, Psionic Freedom of Movement, Truevenom

This version is obviously more powerful than the other one. He may be weaker on defense, but he more than makes up for it in damage-dealing ability. And defense is not all that important since he will regenerate himself if he's killed.
Do what you want, either one is fine by me.

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

Dalamar, Torellan is pretty sweet, but then again an effectively 20th level vampire drow ought to be.

Paxus, while combining your three critters would be nice, it would be a huge blow if it were to fall in combat. Besides, each of the three fill a different role. Your familiar is basically your own personal little scout, your mount is your combat buddy and your planar cohort I assume would be your bodyguard. What I can do to aid you is get your suggestions for the general actions you would have them do and help you in role-playing them, giving you information and junk from your familiar automatically, for existance, as well as adding color commentary.

The whole point of your build is to have three critters running around, and to combine them into one could weaken you a bit, perhaps. At any rate, you don't have to confine yourself to just demons if you don't want to. If you want to take a weaker extraplanar creature (such as a Khaasta, from the Fiend Folio, which has an ECL of 6) and add on some character levels, feel free. I do have a wide amount of monster books: MM, MMII, FF, Tome of Horror I & II, Monsters of Faerun, as well as monsters introduced in all the FR books, Book of Vile Darkness, Manual of the Planes, Draconomicon, and Savage Species. And if you want to go with some kind of corrupted celestial or something, that would be cool too.

 

[Pyrex]

I'm mostly finished but can't find the post detailing how much GP we should have.

Can one of you fill me in? Thanks!

 

[Dalamar]

760,000gp like all other characters of 20th level.

Also, I'm currently in the work of finishing the pw version of Torellan... at 10th level, to bring him in line with everybody else.

 

[Endur]

Have you looked at the LifeDrinker prc from the BOVD for Torellan?