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[aboyd]

Low, elves are unlikely to be LG.

Who says?

The Player's Handbook, page 15:

Since elves love freedom, variety, and self-expression, they lean strongly toward the gentler aspects of chaos.

 

[Nightson]

Aha! Found the one I was looking for...

Regardless of whether or not they are Lawful Good or "soulbound", Roy could still feasibly run across them in the pre-afterlife. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been able to talk to Eugene, either.

Their souls will be put in gems, they will be trapped in said gems, no going to the afterlife at all.

 

[Vorput]

I sort of hope they kill this dragon... but fear that this dragon's grandma, being an epic wyrm, will then show up...

 

[Pbartender]

The Player's Handbook, page 15:

By the same respects, "Alignment: Usually chaotic good"

Usually is not Always.

V is widely regarded as an elf who isn't by any means chaotic good.

Besides, as I mentioned above, they need not be lawful good to meet Roy. They just need to be good.

Their souls will be put in gems, they will be trapped in said gems, no going to the afterlife at all.

Oh, I see... So you're saying you expect the dragon to use the Soul Bind spell. Sorry, I was confused there for a moment.

I doubt it... that would give V an excuse to hunt the dragon down so he can break the gem and release the souls. I think it more likely (and more poetically justified) that the dragon will Disintegrate them.

 

[Nivenus]

He did say it was unlikely, not impossible. Since elves are "usually" chaotic good that would imply that, yes, he is correct and it is unlikely that V's family will be in the LG afterlife.

 

[Mort]

I doubt it... that would give V an excuse to hunt the dragon down so he can break the gem and release the souls. I think it more likely (and more poetically justified) that the dragon will Disintegrate them.

The Dragon did explicitly say (in the previous strip, 629) that she would do exactly that - soul bind the children. Sure she could be lying, but why? the Whole point of the soul bind is so the children cannot possibly be raised without releasing the souls first - and as the Dragon plans to disapear never to be heard from again - she considers this a tru punishment for V.

 

[Pbartender]

The Dragon did explicitly say (in the previous strip, 629) that she would do exactly that - soul bind the children.

Well, not exactly Soul Bind, but something similar...

My apologies, then, Nightson. I must have missed that little bit of dialogue on my first reading.

 

[Voadam]

Aha! Found the one I was looking for...

Regardless of whether or not they are Lawful Good or "soulbound", Roy could still feasibly run across them in the pre-afterlife. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been able to talk to Eugene, either.

I expect them to appear in a different part of the demiplane though, similar to how Roy didn't see the eastern god worshipping newly deceased as he is a northern god worshipper. Elves raised their own god so I don't expect they would show up in the Northern God worshipper section.

 

[Pbartender]

Elves raised their own god so I don't expect they would show up in the Northern God worshipper section.

Good point.


Hrmph. You guys are no fun. And here I thought be fun if Rich didn't bother showing them killed and simply had them show up in the afterlife... Maybe with Eugene hitting on V's spouse, or even just the spouse and kids walking by in the background while other heavenly action was going on.

 

[MarkB]

Varsuvius's optimistic hopes aside, I don't see why there should be time to warn anybody. The dragon has extensively studied his home cottage and she cast Greater Teleport. Presumably she appeared immediately outside, burst through a wall, and immediately began devouring the juicy elf filling within.

The dragon may assume that she's spotted any and all defenses V's family may have, but she didn't get this far by being careless. She's already used one major buff spell, and probably had more up, some of which will have expired, so most likely she'll lurk nearby long enough for several rounds' worth of buff-spell-refreshing before making the attack. That might just give V a small window.

I suppose if Varsuvius was able to get his mentor there, the old elf dude might get there in time to prevent the dragon from making the family un-raisable. That's about it, though.

If the imp really has Greater Teleport as a spell-like ability, and its attendant carrying limitations (by-the-SRD imps lack that capability, and if the imp learned it as a sorcerer spell it wouldn't have the no-passengers clause), then it could probably do this itself, with a lot of luck. If it teleports in just as the dragon kills V's kids, then teleports out with their corpses, that would prevent the Soul Bind. However, it can't save V's mate that way - a full-grown elf weighs significantly more than 50 lb.