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Now my question is, in your professional opinions of today's market, am I better off pitching this idea to an existing company or persuing it myself. Have I any chance of obtaining the rights on my own?

You have no real chance to accomplish either at this point.

If you really want to do this, write a few products for d20 or Dungeon, get your name known out there, start your own small company (and I dont mean PDF company) if that is even possible in d20 anymore and get some track record under your belt. THEN you might have a chance.

Sorry to sound gloomy, but that is about where it is IMHO...Unless of course you have lots and lots of free money to waste throwing it at the license holder. But even then it might not work.

Clark
 

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Many Thanks

Well I definitely have some things to think about.

At this time it looks like I'm going to continue to persue freelance work and possibly produce a PDF product sometime early next year. I am part of a studio of artists and writers (and old, good friends), so the pre-production part is actually relatively inexpensive and dependable.

I had one of those moments when you sort of get a 'gaming epiphany'. A moment where you say to your self, "OMG! I've got a really great idea" and it was eating away at me as to what to do with it.

I was part of the email mailing list for Last Unicorn Games' Star Trek RPG, and made it quite well known that I was a fanatic about both Star Trek and RPGs. I eventually got to be a playtester, and later had the pleasure of working with (the unparalleled) S. John Ross and Steve Long on the Andorian Sourcebook, Among the Clans. Part of me is secretly hoping one of you gents picks up the license I have in mind so I can put in a similar effort to be part of that project. :p

Well, signing off now. I want to thank everyone again and must say that it has been awesome to have some of my favorite guys in the business take the time to help me out here. All the advice has been solid and honest and I really appreciate the well wishes. There comes a point when, after 28 years, you don't want your hobby to just be a hobby any more. You want to be part of it and create something entertaining for the next player or GM, so they'll be thinking the same thing in another 28 years.

Take Care and Best of Everything,
Adam Dickstein
NewLifeForm
 

NewLifeForm said:
Hi All, For years I've had an idea for an RPG, but there are two major obstacles in my way...

First, let me say that this is entirely possible. Don't let a handful of opinions convince you one way or another. Do some more research and judge for yourself.

Second, your credentials look fairly strong, except for one thing. I've never heard of you. 10 years of freelancing and 5 years of retail myself, plus about $8,000 in my personal collection. I've encountered a lot of names.

Third, some licenses are less expensive than you might think. Obviously, you're a fan of the setting and so you have a high opinion of it. I have a friend that has gone a couple of steps further than you down this road and some of the numbers are surprisingly low.

As far as writer or publisher, well, which do you want to be? If you start a company and become a publisher, you better have all the writing done first, because you won't have much time for it as a publisher.

I've been looking at this exact issue myself for several years, and I'd be happy to compare thoughts with you. Of course, it would help if we're not after the same property ;-)
E-mail me at lloyd@lloydwrites.com.
 

Hey Adam,

First off, doing it yourself.

For the sort of licence you describe (and without specifics, please accept we are shooting in the dark here), be prepared to lay out five figures up front, for the licence alone (printing, art, etc all go on top). However, strange things have happened in licence land before now and you never know. Always be professional to the extreme, always be ready to answer any question you are given and you have the tiniest chance of a miracle happening. However, you will likely not get away from that five figure cost and that is assuming they look past a lack of track record. Warner Brothers, for example, were keen to explore what we had done previously before they handed over B5.

Second, approaching someone else.

This all depends what you want out of the gig. Want to become a multi-millionaire from this idea? Try licencing something other than RPGs :) However, if what you are looking for is the chance to work on something that will grow into a game thousands of people will play and you get fairly rewarded for it, this might be the option.

As Chris pointed out, you need a good reason to stay in the loop when you approach another company, as they will likely take over the licence negotiations (we would - and would likely get a better deal, having had some experience with this). However, you are likely to bring something to the table that is very important - knoweldge and expertise of the property you have in mind.

For example. Suppose somebody approached us with the idea of the Care Bears RPG. We might consider it a good idea and start making moves to acquiring the licence. However, to my knowledge, not one of my staff members has any good idea of what the Care Bears are about - we would thus be in need of either crash-learning the property or relying on a freelancer for the job. If you have the knowledge and can put pen to paper, you might well have talked yourself into a job.

As I say, funny things can happen in licence-land. The most we have ever paid for a licence runs well into six figures. The least we have paid for something based on film & screen is zero. But what I lay out above can be considered more or less the norm.

I can make you an offer here - drop me a line at msprange@mongoosepublishing.com and I would be happy to discuss this further. Mongoose is always on the look out for interesting licences and I would be happy to give you an honest opinion. If it is a good 'un, we might well make you an offer. If it is not, I would be happy to show you why it is not.

Your call :)
 


jmucchiello said:
I'd say within a week we'll have "Mongoose announces Care Bears RPG" rumors. Right? :)

You know, if it did turn out to be a Care Bears RPG, I'd promise to buy a copy!

I doubt I'd be able to make myself read it, though....
 

NewLifeForm said:
I was part of the email mailing list for Last Unicorn Games' Star Trek RPG, and made it quite well known that I was a fanatic about both Star Trek and RPGs. I eventually got to be a playtester, and later had the pleasure of working with (the unparalleled) S. John Ross and Steve Long on the Andorian Sourcebook, Among the Clans.
Ah ah! I knew the name sounded familiar! ("I never forget a face...Mister Chekov?") :D

At least one of us has heard of Adam. :)

Anyhow, to suggestions, essentially your best bet is to put together a good business plan and pitch it to a publisher as to why they should pursue the license in question. If you have the industry experience that you state, that shouldn't be too difficult. (Or a conventional business background would also suffice.)

Best of luck!
(Just stay away from Stargate, James Bond, and Dr. Who; I have my eyes on all of them.) :p
 

Wow, it's like I got the Republicans speech and now the Democratic Response :lol:

Just kidding of course.

I'm not giving up on this, but am approaching it more carefully and more informed. The subject of the game I know, that's a given or I wouldn't want to do it so much. I'm now getting a better impression of what it takes to get it done.

I am by no means unaware that I'm, for all intent and purposes, a nobody. I also know I'm not going to make a mega-million dollars. That's not my goal. My goal is, simply put, to make a comfortable living doing something I enjoy. I suppose I'm a reallist with bouts of optimism.

A special nod and thank you to Mongoosematt, for your honest and inspiring response.

As for Abulia, I'll be signing autographs in the outside lobby at noon. ;)

No seriously, you guys have all been great. Please continue to post and discuss. Hopefully it will inspire and inform others.

Later Days,
NewLifeForm

PS: Can I pre-order the Care Bears game now?
 

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