Orc & Pie?

[Impeesa]

The Orc and the Pie is excellent, I'm thinking of running it by email. However, as others have pointed out, Monte does leave a number of questions unanswered. For example, is this a masterwork pie? If not, the treasure is way below what might be appropriate for an encounter of this level. Also, how tough is the Orc? Is it a generic MM War1 Orc? Or is it an 18th level transmuter? I need to know this if I am to run it successfully.

--Impeesa--

 

[Tonguez]

Also, how tough is the Orc? Is it a generic MM War1 Orc? Or is it an 18th level transmuter? I need to know this if I am to run it successfully.

From the description I would presume that the Orc is Ranger 1/Barbarian 8/Cook 15/PrCastry Chef 8 (afterall ALL Orcs are Barbarians and EVERYBODY takes at least one level of ranger)

PrC Pastry Chef - 5 levels
Level
1 SA Like Momma use to make +2
2 SA Let them eat Pie
3 SA Like Momma use to Make +4
4 SA Iron Stomach
5 SA Immunity to Gristle

 

[Kamard]

I liked his earlier work, but this orc and pie thing is just crap.

For one thing, everyone knows that pie is an orc's greatest enemy. How are you supposed to bake a pie when you live in a cave?

And how about fruits and vegetables? All orcs know about trees is that you make siege engines and great axe handles from them.

 

[Wolf72]

bah!

I liked his earlier work, but this orc and pie thing is just crap.

For one thing, everyone knows that pie is an orc's greatest enemy. How are you supposed to bake a pie when you live in a cave?

And how about fruits and vegetables? All orcs know about trees is that you make siege engines and great axe handles from them.

nay-sayer!!! you're just jealous!!!

besides your information is all wrong, pie's aren't their greatest enemies, pigs are! ... I mean come on? there's a reason why orc's don't ride into battle on dire-pigs ... they hate each other!

[just shoot me now, I don't believe I got sucked into this thread ... AGAIN!!]

 

[Shadowdancer]

The great thing about this adventure is you can run it time after time, and it never gets old. You can truly eat your pie, and have it, too.

But as one of my players pointed out, the description doesn't match up with the map. The description says you see an orc with a pie. On the map, the orc and the pie are clearly on separate sides of the room. So the orc does not, in fact, have the pie in the sense that he is in possession of the pie. Well, he may be in possession of the pie given a loose interpretation of the meaning of the sentence, since he is the only one in the room at the start of the adventure. But a strict interpretation of the sentence could leave you with the interpretation that the orc must have the pie in his physical possession, i.e., in his hands, or hand, or balanced on his lap, or atop his head, etc., for him to, in fact, have the pie. And the map clearly does not corroborate this latter interpretation of the sentence.

 

[Horacio]

Recently I ran a Planescape version of 'Orc and pie'.

It was called: 'The Spinagon and the Bytopian beer'.
I had to change all the background story, and add some planar elements (he room was a cave in the Elemental Plane of Earth, and the door wasn't a door, was a portal from Sigil), but it rocked.

 

[Numion]

the Orc and Pie is just a mindless dungeon crawl, just like the Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil! Can he do nothing else?

 

[Feanor Starym]

ah but you all fail to see the depths of Monte's genius!
He left out a door intentionally. the task is not to kill the orc, but to figure out a way out of the room, as there are no entrances or exits. This can seriously occupy a party for a whole 3-4 hour session, as they try failed method after failed method to escape (unless they have access to teleport, in which the point is moot)

 

[Gez]

the Orc and Pie is just a mindless dungeon crawl, just like the Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil! Can he do nothing else?

No, no, it's not a mindless dungeon crawl ! Even if killing the orc is the most blatant way of solving the adventure, it is not the only one ! I ran it as a all-roleplay adventure, they had to negociate with the orc to convince him to give the pie. In exchange for the pie, the orc tasked them to bring the beverage. It ended as a nice feast, they drank and eat, and the orc danced naked on the table (don't remember when the table appeared, though).

 

[Dougal DeKree]

Pie-Template

Allright, i know where to look up the orc, but where can i find the Pie? Is there a template? Or is it a prestige class? what is it's BAB? etc. Any links anyone?