OT: Blade II - Spoiler - Opinions?

[Turlogh]

I really liked this movie, I went expecting to see a comic book hero on the big screen. Guess what, that's what I got! In the local paper the movie was panned because it wasn't a good horror movie, thats like saying Pretty Woman isn't a good thriller. This is an action movie with with larger than life characters doning impossible things that happens to have some horror elements.

There probably are plot holes and inconsistencies but while I watched the movie I didn't notice any. The close camera work for the combat scenes was a little bothersome but the combat was very good. Overall I give this movie an 8 out of 10.

 

[Corinth]

Dish, please.

I want specifics on the Reapers.

 

[RiggsWolfe]

I liked the movie alot, found it much more entertaining than the first one.

As for the combat scenes, and them being filmed in to close, ALOT of movies are doing that in action scenes nowadays and I HATE it. LOTR did it in Moria. Gladiator did it in the opening scene. Some director decided it was more artistic, and somewhere forgot that it makes it hard to follow.

Action directors should be forced to watch a John Woo movie before they ever film a scene, and if they have too many closeups, or shakey camera work, they should be taken out in the town square and flogged.

((hey, it's a DnD board, so it fits))

 

[jollyninja]

o.k., it's based on a MARVEL comic, inconsistencies are to be expected. what i meant really was that what people are complaining about is that blade 2 is not blade 1. there has never been a movie sequel made that did not deviate from the original somewhat without really sucking. ie die hard 1 = good, die hard 2 = crap, die hard 3 = good because it's different, john mclean is not trapped somewhere with a terrorist group in 3, he is not again just a victim of circomstance and poor luck. they want him dead.

also most of the complaints ammount to "this movie was not exactly what i thought it would be." (if it was you would be complaining that it was to predictable) and "i have not actually thought about possible rationalisations for certian actions that blade took but i'm going to complain anyway." i'll bet you 50 bucks that blade doesn't get many chicks, finally one comes along that isn't going to be freaked out by him, and he act's a little bit strange. so what? and how many vampires that don't fry themselves within the first week want to be cured?

a movie such as this was not meant to be reflected upon, it is not an art flick. it is a two (probably not even, i did not use a stop watch) hour distraction from your every day life. it was not meant to inspire thought provoking dialogue amongst it's viewers. if all you got in the movie was a vampire killing machine version of blade, the movie would have flopped and been panned by every critic in existence (and rightfully so imho) in stead they gave blade a little depth as a character, depth he had in only a few scenes in the first one. without alot of the scenes that have been complained about the plot would have been nonexistent, it would have been blade sees vampires, blade makes a wisecrack, blade kills vampire. that would have been a tradgedy.

with all that there were alot of things i didn't like about blade 2, it's not the greatest movie of all time, if that's what you are expecting i hope you have a different definition of that then i do.

 

[Black Omega]

I generally likedthe movie for what it was. Fun action. The CGI was bad in places. I don't mean people moving faster than human or moving in ways that look inhuman. I mean looking at the screen and thinking "That looked like bad CGI. Some of the fight scenes. The scene where Blade gets through against the metal door and it buckles. Places where I'm supposed to think it's real but it's blatently CGI.

There were some anoying plot hiccups. The sunsuits that really should have been used later. Nyssa being a badass in the fight with Blade (while hidden in the suit) then being useless in a fight the rest of the movie.

I didn't like the head opf the Vampire nation being so helpless beyond his scheming, but that's consistent with the pervious Blade movie where old vampires were basically wimps. The wrestling moves wereamusing. And you know with all the blood drained from Blade that was never brought up again, they can probably create Daywalkers for Blade 3

 

[Troll's Choice]

Alright, my dear friends....since you've given your humble opinions, I might as well chip in with my own 2 bits.

I saw the movie the other night. I have mixed feelings about it. Firstly, I'll point out the things I did like:

I liked Blade's fight scene against the vamps in the beginning of the movie when he took out those suckers on the motorcycles. Helluva way to kick @ss.

I liked the fact that Whistler returns. I have some reservations about the plot device they use to bring him back, but he's a cranky, ornery old goat, and I like him.

I like it when Blade is introduced to the vamp squad that was originally designed to bring him down, and when one the those vampire suckers decides to harass him, Blade responds in his ever-so-humble way, and plants that bomb on that sucker's head. Great scene. "Don't look at her. Look at me." {smack}

I liked Blade's fight scenes with Morac or whatever his name is. You know...the head reaper guy, son of the head vampire guy. Those fight scenes were quite entertaining. I dug it.

There were some other things about the movie I liked, but I can't remember everything. There were, however, some things I did NOT like. These were:

Some of the fight scenes were shot too close. It wasn't shot close for every fight scene, but they pulled that stunt enough times to mildly irritate me.

The fight scenes when the reapers invade the vampire club: what can I say? It was so chaotic, I could hardly tell what the hell was going on. That was a mistake.

The movie was a little slow in places. Sounds crazy, but true.

The girl vampire who invades Blade's home: what were they thinking? In their fight, their battle is practically a draw. If they had kept fighting, he'd have killed her because of her allergy to silver, plus a cut on her suit would have exposed her to the UV lamp, thus killing her. Blade would have been seriously injured, maybe enough for the other vamp to finish him off if such had been their intention.

Even so....her fighting skills at the beginning of the movie easily rival Blade's, yet throughout the rest of the movie, she's practically useless compared to Blade. This is a MAJOR inconsistency.

Another thing about the girl vampire is that she is BORING. Sure, she's pretty, but she sure as hell didn't inspire me. She plain vanilla in my book.

When the girl vampire and her buddy are in the tunnels wading through the water, Blade tells them to get out of there. If they're so well trained, why are they in the water in the first place? Classic ambush. I saw that one coming a mile away. A little unpredictability would be nice. There was a nice ledge there up against the wall. They could have walked there instead of in the water. But doing that would have required brains.

The head vampire is at one point strangling his daughter, the one that nearly handed Blade's @ss to him at the start of the movie. Yet he provides no resistance when his son arrives...How quaint. Neither does the girl. Let's all lie there like sheep while our own kin murders us. Never mind that they're both trained killers. Very sloppy.

Another thing I feel compelled to mention, is the movie is unnecessarily gory. Sometimes implied violence works better than a slaughterfest. What can I say?

Something about the movie's pace was off. It's hard to explain what was wrong with it, but it wasn't as inspiring as the first movie. That being said, was Blade II inconsistent? HELL, YES. Was it boring? No. Did I like it despite its glaring faults? Surprisingly, yeah. Will I add it to my video collection? I'll think about it...

P.S. I can scarcely believe I wrote a review this long. Please forgive me for my rambling, but I loved Blade, so I had high hopes for Blade II. Hope I didn't bore ya too much.

 

[mzsylver]

As for resident evil, i probably would have seen it if they hadn't dogged out Bruce Campbell. That put it insantly on my wait for tape list.

double take.

explain explain!!!

oh ya... we're discussing Blade, not Bruce Campbell.

i just saw it tonite. i liked it.

cons:

too much action, not enough story/character development. ie. if Blade is gonna fall for the girl, show it happening.

too many inconsitencies. i dont mind some - it's Marvel. but the fact that the chick wasnt as cool fighting wise as in her opening scene bugged me.

con/pro:

at first i didnt like how the reapers looked. ie, the jaw unbuckling thing. but throughout the movie it grew on me.

pros:

the light bombs. those just looked neat.

the fight scene with the girl & the other vamp and blade. that was very cool looking.

as someone mentioned, the scene where blade meets the group that is supposed to kill him - it was pretty damn funny. *giggle*

 

[Wild Karrde]

I gotta say I completely enjoyed it. I came away from the movie thinking what I expected. Cool action, lots of dead vampires, and some cool Blade poses.

I knew it wasn't gonna be LotR or anything remotely like that. I didn't go into it all hyped up that it was gonna be a grade "A" film. I got exactly what I wanted out of the flick.

 

[ckirby]

For what it's worth...

Blade ][ was a dismal film, but it played right to the audience it was intended for. So, while it is easy to scream, "I want my money back!", I give much respect to the film for being true to itself.

Four stars (****) for being a "Vampire-Kung-Fu-Action-Packed-Neo-Punk-Slasher.

And, once again, I must ask Hollywood why, oh why, oh why do you keep putting Ron Perlman in films! His best work was "City of Lost Children" and "Beauty and the Beast".

Bring back Joe Don Baker!

 

[Wild Karrde]

Re: For what it's worth...

Blade ][

Bring back Joe Don Baker!

Now that's absolutely brilliant. We could all use a little dose of JDB in our lives. I could watch Mitchell 20 times back-to-back...or not.