[OT] Can anyone help me understand Football?

stevelabny said:
some offensive players can move before the snap. the wrs, rbs and tes. the linemen cant move once theyre in the "set" or "3pt stance" position. theres also a rule about how many guys have to be on the line of scrimmage at a certain time and restrcitions on how many guys can move related to that.

I believe that only one offensive player is allowed to be in motion before the snap. If that player sets himself, and remains set for one second, then another play can begin motion.

I am a D&D nerd who played little league as a kid. I was the place kicker. That, my friends, is sad.

-Ryan
 

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Plane Sailing said:
Well, there are 11 men per side, one of whom is the goalkeeper (and he is allowed to handle the ball, but only within his area) and the other ten have various positions. The game is played in two 45-minute halves and enjoys rapid popularity amongst most nations in the world. And I do mean rapid.

It is most notably distinguished from Rugby in that Rugby is a game for thugs played by gentlemen, and football is a game for gentlemen played by thugs. (old saying)

Was that what you meant ;)
I was watching some of the Rugby world cup going on now. The players don't look like gentlemen to me ;)
 

Shadowdancer said:
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If someone is wearing an ineligible number, i.e. 78 or 54, and he comes into the game and will be lined up at an eligible position, he must report to the ref first. This is so the ref can let the defense know that someone wearing an ineligible number will be lined up in an eligible position, and is therefore eligible to catch a pass.

This also applies to people who are wearing an eligible number who will be lined up at an ineligible position. They also must report to the ref.

If you don't report in to the ref, it's a penalty.

This usually only happens on special teams -- when punting or kicking a field goal or extra point -- or in goalline or short-yardage situations, when you might want a big lineman to play on the end of the line or as the lead blocker out of the backfield to give you more blocking power. But these extra linemen, since they are lined up in an eligible position, can run with the ball or catch a pass, or even throw a forward pass.
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Of course, none of this applies to the New York football Giants. (cf. 2002-2003 NFC playoffs) :)
 

don't forget if the kicker misses a FG under 20 yards, he is ritually sacrificed to the bleachers.

you should see how this goes down in Oakland.
 

RyanL said:
I believe that only one offensive player is allowed to be in motion before the snap. If that player sets himself, and remains set for one second, then another play can begin motion.

I am a D&D nerd who played little league as a kid. I was the place kicker. That, my friends, is sad.

-Ryan

You can have more than one person in motion prior to the snap, but only 1 person can be in motion 2 or 3 seconds (I forget which) prior to the snap.
 

enrious said:
You can have more than one person in motion prior to the snap, but only 1 person can be in motion 2 or 3 seconds (I forget which) prior to the snap.

Yep, if more than one player is in motion they both have to be set before the ball can be snapped. If one player is in motion the ball may be snapped while he is still moving, but he can not be moving towards the line of scrimmage.

I'd suggest watching all of ESPN's NFL programs [Sunday NFL Countdown (11:00), Primetime (Sun, 7:30), Monday Night Countdown (7:30), NFL Live (Mon-Sat, various), NFL Matchup (on three times, first on Fri)]. They may not be wholly newbie friendly, but they do quite a bit of analysis and illustrate what goes on in games (Matchup in particular explains what goes on during a play).

But mostly just watch games and if you can get someone who knows the game better to ask questions when you have them.
 


Ah the realization that football is actually a very interesting game. I came to that realization in college, after I got over all of the high school hangups about footballs being a "jock" thing. Football is a very strategic game. It blends athleticism with brains (at least coaches and qbs).

My best advice is to get a football video game and play that. Soon you will be criticizing the coaches on TV when they run stupid plays, because we all know that playing a video game means you can do it in real life. :D

As far as the web do a search on the history of football and that will give you lots of information that will help you. It will even explain the evolution of a lot of the rules and the positions. Like, at one time the forward pass was almost deemed an illegal play because it created too much of an advantage to the offense over the defense. Thus the quarterback, halfback, and fullback were all designators to where they lined up behind the offensive line. The passing and recieving came later. Tight ends are offensive linemen who can recieve and recievers normally recieve. Of course all kinds of non standard plays can be run. The quarterback does not have to be the passer, the halfback and fullback can make a pass as well. Also a lateral pass also known as a pitch can we made at any time.

On the defense the linebackers are lined up behind the defensive line and their goal is to tackle the backs. The safeties go after recievers. Though either can make the play.

Feel free to ask more questions if you have them.
 

Here, this will help (thank god it has no vulgarity in it!)

by George Carlin

Baseball is different from any other sport, very different. For instance, in most sports you score points or goals; in baseball you score runs. In most sports the ball, or object, is put in play by the offensive team; in baseball the defensive team puts the ball in play, and only the defense is allowed to touch the ball. In fact, in baseball if an offensive player touches the ball intentionally, he's out; sometimes unintentionally, he's out.

Also: in football,basketball, soccer, volleyball, and all sports played with a ball, you score with the ball and in baseball the ball prevents you from scoring.

In most sports the team is run by a coach; in baseball the team is run by a manager. And only in baseball does the manager or coach wear the same clothing the players do. If you'd ever seen John Madden in his Oakland Raiders uniform,you'd know the reason for this custom.

Now, I've mentioned football. Baseball & football are the two most popular spectator sports in this country. And as such, it seems they ought to be able to tell us something about ourselves and our values.
I enjoy comparing baseball and football:

Baseball is a nineteenth-century pastoral game.
Football is a twentieth-century technological struggle.

Baseball is played on a diamond, in a park.The baseball park!
Football is played on a gridiron, in a stadium, sometimes called Soldier Field or War Memorial Stadium.

Baseball begins in the spring, the season of new life.
Football begins in the fall, when everything's dying.

In football you wear a helmet.
In baseball you wear a cap.

Football is concerned with downs - what down is it?
Baseball is concerned with ups - who's up?

In football you receive a penalty.
In baseball you make an error.

In football the specialist comes in to kick.
In baseball the specialist comes in to relieve somebody.

Football has hitting, clipping, spearing, piling on, personal fouls, late hitting and unnecessary roughness.
Baseball has the sacrifice.

Football is played in any kind of weather: rain, snow, sleet, hail, fog...
In baseball, if it rains, we don't go out to play.

Baseball has the seventh inning stretch.
Football has the two minute warning.
Baseball has no time limit: we don't know when it's gonna end - might have extra innings.
Football is rigidly timed, and it will end even if we've got to go to sudden death.

In baseball, during the game, in the stands, there's kind of a picnic feeling; emotions may run high or low, but there's not too much unpleasantness.
In football, during the game in the stands, you can be sure that at least twenty-seven times you're capable of taking the life of a fellow human being.

And finally, the objectives of the two games are completely different:

In football the object is for the quarterback, also known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his receivers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! - I hope I'll be safe at home!



it does start out with baseball but it compares football too. hope this helped!
 
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