[OT] Claim of first clone birth

[caudor]

Hum, I'm not sure what to think about this yet. I'm sure I will develop a position as more info is revealed.

You see, until today, I was pretty certain that cloning wasn't possible with current technology.

I will have to wait and see...

 

[Mark]

An Italian Scientist (not related to those people) who is with another corporation that does cloning research was quick to step up and mention that their clone is due to be born in about one month. I saw that on the television but cannot yet find a supporting link. If someone else finds that news, please post the link. Thanks.

 

[Krug]

Who Cloned First?

All I know is that it's inevitable.

And Krug II, please stay in the pen until u're 2!

 

[Buttercup]

Hum, I'm not sure what to think about this yet. I'm sure I will develop a position as more info is revealed.

You see, until today, I was pretty certain that cloning wasn't possible with current technology.

I will have to wait and see...

I think we still don't know. Even if the baby is born apparently healthy, many serious defects and syndromes don't manifest until the child is a bit older. If this clone is healthy, sane and of normal intelligence when it is 5, then I think we can be sure that cloning is viable. Not before.

 

[-Warlord-]

And have you read the cult's reason to clone?

Rael says the Raelians eventually want to learn how to clone an adult and then "transfer the brain to the clone."

Can you imagine....children as nothing more than "replacement bodies"?

I for one don't like that thought at all!

 

[I'm A Banana]

1) This proves the inevitability of knowledge. Laws or no laws, the world will make these 'abominations,' and they are full fledged human beings, whether those who oppose cloning see that or not. It truly makes me revolted that people who are often so quick to defend human life are so quick to denounce these as sub-human.

2) Personally, this scares me more because of who is doing it. As quick as I am to defend the right of something like the Raeliens to exist, I don't really like the idea of entrusting important, world-shaking scientific advancements to people who believe that their leader is descendant from an extraterrestrial. I do think these aren't the most rational, levelheaded people out there, and that putting this in their hands (as a ban would) makes the future lives of those cloned children very...iffy.

3) *Sigh*

 

[Buttercup]

So I guess they think that clones don't or shouldn't have rights? If they do a brain transplant, then they're killing the clone's personality.

It's sounding more and more like a SF novel. In fact, I can think of a short story by Orson Scott Card, called Fat Farm, I think, that's about transplanting the personality into a clone. Then there is the work of Lois McMaster Bujold, in which illegal and unethical cloning techniques are available to anyone who has sufficient resources and insufficient scruples.

 

[Joker]

And have you read the cult's reason to clone?

Rael says the Raelians eventually want to learn how to clone an adult and then "transfer the brain to the clone."

Can you imagine....children as nothing more than "replacement bodies"?

I for one don't like that thought at all!

I do. I'm afraid of growing old (I'm already 19!!!!!!!!!!!!!). This could mean a type of immortality. Woohooo.

 

[Wolfspirit]

I do. I'm afraid of growing old (I'm already 19!!!!!!!!!!!!!). This could mean a type of immortality. Woohooo.

Which kind of scares me. The world would be a very crowded place if noone ever died.

Of course, since with all current clonings it requires the clone to go through a birth, only the well supported or rich could do that

 

[Mark Chance]

Hmm...

1) This proves the inevitability of knowledge. Laws or no laws, the world will make these 'abominations,' and they are full fledged human beings, whether those who oppose cloning see that or not. It truly makes me revolted that people who are often so quick to defend human life are so quick to denounce these as sub-human.

I pay quite a bit of attention to cloning and related human rights issues. I've never once heard anyone say that cloning should be banned because the resultant clones would be subhuman. I've heard many say that cloning should be banned because it threatens to treat human beings like products on a grocery store shelf.

And that is the real stickler. Let's say I'm a multi-billion dollar corporation and I make a clone. Does that mean I now own that clone? If so, that clone is my property, to be disposed of as I see fit? Dred Scot, anyone? Brave New World, anyone?

Be afraid. Maybe not very afraid, but afraid all the same.