[OT] Do you believe in ghosts?


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Although I’ve had something strange happen, I’m still one of those sceptics that requires a ridiculous amount of proof before I can believe. The funny thing is, I really, really want to believe, I’m just far to cynical to be able to. My story goes as thus…

My ex and I were travelling up to Ballarat from Melbourne to visit my mother up in the country. While it was nighttime, there were plenty of stars out so visibility was pretty good illuminating the grass land either side of the road. We were coming down a steep part of the road and I was driving pretty fast with no other cars about, when I saw the headlights pick up running sneakers right in front of me, going from one side to the other. I quickly slammed the breaks down so I wouldn’t hit the person, but the sneakers appeared to have vanished as they reached the headlights centre. I looked to where the shoes would have been if they had continued and couldn’t see anyone, and there certainly wasn’t anywhere for them to hide. As I continued driving I shook my head and quickly assumed I saw a rabbit. It was the only logical explanation.

I looked to my girlfriend beside me and said “Sorry about that, I thought I saw something run out in front of me.”

She looked at me as if I was crazy and said “Yeah, that guy.”

“What?”

And it turns out that she saw the lower half of someone running across in front wearing jeans. She had then had looked at me to see if I’d seen him so I’d break, and by the time she looked back again they had vanished.

It was a very strange experience and something that (needless to say) freaked us both out for the remainder of the trip. To this day, I still can’t explain what either of us saw.
 

This thread is rather creepy for some reason. I read the first 2 pages and the last page, I'd rather not read any more.....

I haven't had any first hand experiences with "ghosts" but I have been told a lot of stories by other people whom I trust.

One of the most remarkable was from a guy who used to live near Yorktown VA. He said he and one of his friends both encountered a ghostly revolutionary war soldier (American Revolution) on a bridge one night. He was bandaged and dazed, and seemed to not notice them. He walked right by them without a word or sound.

There is also a story from my old home town in upstate NY, that goes something like this:

Back in the 1800's a young couple got married. On their wedding night, the husband tied his new bride to the back of his wagon and dragged her to death out on "commons" (old dirt roads rarely used anymore.) Then, back when I was in high school, some out-of-towners where driving through that same area when they spied a very wounded young woman. She was bloody and nearly dead. THey picked her up, put her in their car and started to take her to the hospital, but when they got to the ER she had disappeared from the back seat of their car.

Whether that really happened or not, I don't know.

My father and his sisters also claim emphatically that the house they grew up in (the same house my estranged grandfather lives in today) is very haunted. One of my aunts says that when she was a child, she would wake up at night and not be able to get back to sleep. Then a strange old woman would show up in her room, sit in the rocking chair and sing to her until she went back to sleep. My father says he has sat up and watched the rocking chair in her room start to rock when she awoke, but he never saw anyone in it and never heard a singing voice. He did see the chair moving though. He and my uncle also say that they frequently heard footsteps and voices in that house.

Finally, not really a ghost story, but both of my parents claim that the first house they lived in (before I was born) had a mysterious bloody hand print on the wall in the basement. They painted over it several times, but it kept showing through the layers of paint.

They moved from there before I was born, so I've never seen it.
 

I'm really surprised at the amount of superstition among the participants on this board.

To the people who think they have experienced something so incredibly unlikely to happen by natural causes that it must be "supernatural"....

Which is more likely: That you experienced an infinitely improbable event that can only be explained by the existence of the "supernatural", or that you experienced something completely "natural" and you don't understand how it happened?
 

That was pretty snide.

So, humanity understands every aspect of how the universe works, and every force in it? The supernatural is natural events that we do not understand yet.
 

Well, here's another, though it isn't strictly my experience. My dad told me once that his grandmother (100% pureblood Scot) had often claimed that her house on Third Street here in town was haunted by a woman in green, who would climb the steps, turn into a bedroom, and sit on the bed weeping. Although she died before I was born, my dad's often shown me which house was hers.

Fast forward a few years. There's this girl I was dating in high school, who lived in the same house on Third Street. One day she tells me how her house is haunted. Having heard the story from my dad, I said "Oh?" and asked her what the ghost was like. Turns out it was a green-clad woman, who was usually seen near the top of the stairs and was sometimes heard crying.

:eek:
 

Aaron L said:
So, humanity understands every aspect of how the universe works, and every force in it?
How did you get that from my post? :confused:

The idea that the human consciousness can "survive" the death of the body and move around in the world able to influence its surroundings has no foundation in science.

Before you turn to a supernatural explanation, you should first consider if the event in question cannot be explained in a more conventional way.

"Entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily."
 

Though I have some weird experience and some friends who claim to have some kind of sixth sense, I cannot say "I believe ghost" as I am not sure if those phenomenons are illusion, trick, real ghost, or maybe some un identified new life form, etc.

By the way, great majority of this board members are Americans, so I want to ask you. Is anybody living Boise, Idaho? One of my friend have told me that about 10 years ago, he was in the State University there as a short time exchange student from his Japanese university, and a dormitory called "Towers" there were haunted. While there, as he is a researcher of occultism, he have tried to purify the place.

He have tried to seal north east of that tower. North east is, in some of Chinese and Japanese occultism, considered to be "devil's gate", from that direction ghosts and devils tend to come. He have made special crystal charm, and tried to bury it in the north east corner of the garden's dormitory. But suddenly, his professors gave him a lot of house works and thus he couldn't. So he have handed that charm to his friends, and let them bury it.

Ghost have gone since then. And eventually he have returned to Japan.

But about two years later, one of a younger girl in his (Japanese) university come to him and told that the dormitory is still haunted (that Japanese university was sending student every year). And, the number of the ghosts were INCREASING!

My friend have asked the guy whom he have handed the crystal if he really buried the crystal. The guy said "Yes I did buried is in the south west corner of the dormitory, as you told me." South west! That is "Devil's Back Gate" where ghosts supposed to exit! So it is like dammed up a river. Ghosts go in and never go out! He have FAILED TO PURIFY THE TOWER MISERABLY.

I have heard that the place the guy have buried the crystal is now covered by concrete and thus people cannot remove the seal crystal anymore.....
 

I don't believe in ghosts but I don't disbelieve of them either.

I've yet to get a proof that ghosts exist but lack of proof doesn't disproove it.

In other words, I have no clue whether ghosts exist or not.
 

mastermind said:
I've yet to get a proof that ghosts exist but lack of proof doesn't disproove it.
Do little green faeries from Mars live inside your head?

Yes? No? Maybe?

The fact that most claims cannot be disproven per se is no reason to remain "undecided".
 

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