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Wow- my sympathies.

If there's anything we can do, let us know. From your initial post it sounds like you just basically need someone's shoulder to cry on. Well, we're here for ya man. And to echo another good bit of advice, keep yourself busy. That way the days will go by, and time heals, albeit slowly.
 

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Kyle,

I am very sorry to read about your son's death. I lost my father when I was 12, and I am still not over his death, nor will I ever be. I find comfort in the poetry of Longfellow, who was a great man who suffered much but bore his pain nobly:

Light of Stars

The night is come, but not too soon;
And sinking silently,
All silently, the little moon
Drops down behind the sky.

There is no light in earth or heaven
But the cold light of stars;
And the first watch of night is given
To the red planet Mars.

Is it the tender star of love?
The star of love and dreams?
O no! from that blue tent above,
A hero's armor gleams.

And earnest thoughts within me rise,
When I behold afar,
Suspended in the evening skies,
The shield of that red star.

O star of strength! I see thee stand
And smile upon my pain;
Thou beckonest with thy mailed hand,
And I am strong again.

Within my breast there is no light
But the cold light of stars;
I give the first watch of the night
To the red planet Mars.

The star of the unconquered will,
He rises in my breast,
Serene, and resolute, and still,
And calm, and self-possessed.

And thou, too, whosoe'er thou art,
That readest this brief psalm,
As one by one thy hopes depart,
Be resolute and calm.

O fear not in a world like this,
And thou shalt know ere long,
Know how sublime a thing it is
To suffer and be strong.

Resignation

THERE is no flock, however watched and tended,
But one dead lamb is there!
There is no fireside, howsoe’er defended,
But has one vacant chair!

The air is full of farewells to the dying,
And mournings for the dead;
The heart of Rachel, for her children crying,
Will not be comforted!

Let us be patient! These severe afflictions
Not from the ground arise,
But oftentimes celestial benedictions
Assume this dark disguise.

We see but dimly through the mists and vapors;
Amid these earthly damps
What seem to us but sad, funereal tapers
May be heaven’s distant lamps.

There is no Death! What seems so is transition;
This life of mortal breath
Is but a suburb of the life elysian,
Whose portal we call Death.

She is not dead,—the child of our affection,—
But gone unto that school
Where she no longer needs our poor protection,
And Christ himself doth rule.

In that great cloister’s stillness and seclusion,
By guardian angels led,
Safe from temptation, safe from sin’s pollution,
She lives whom we call dead.

Day after day we think what she is doing
In those bright realms of air;
Year after year, her tender steps pursuing,
Behold her grown more fair.

Thus do we walk with her, and keep unbroken,
The bond which nature gives,
Thinking that our remembrance, though unspoken,
May reach her where she lives.

Not as a child shall we again behold her;
For when with raptures wild
In our embraces we again enfold her,
She will not be a child;

But a fair maiden, in her Father’s mansion,
Clothed with celestial grace;
And beautiful with all the soul’s expansion
Shall we behold her face.

And though at times impetuous with emotion
And anguish long suppressed,
The swelling heart heaves moaning like the ocean,
That cannot be at rest,—

We will be patient, and assuage the feeling
We may not wholly stay;
By silence sanctifying, not concealing,
The grief that must have way.
 
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I am deeply sorrowful for your loss. I am not a father so I cannot imagine the pain you feel. But I am a son. I know that I mean the world to my own father. And in repeat go to a counselour or some support group I am sure that they would be able to help. Don't give up, live your life for your son. Do things that you always wanted to do with him, he is still with you. And just as you never will forget nor will he ever forget you.

A candle shall be lit and I will utter prayers for you and your family, this evening. Go with God Kyle


The Seraph of Earth and Stone
 

My sympathies to you, mate.

Use the support available to you, including a counsellor. The pain is yours but others can help you until it becomes managable. And contrary to appearances, it will become managable.
Ristin said:
I watched him grow and develop and, quite honestly, become a hell of a lightsaber handler thanks to hours of watching Star Wars and practicing.
:)
I hope you continue your life with the same intensity and joy as Kaleb did. Trust yourself, follow your passions (even if the pain hides them from you for a little while) and practice them.

And, to mirror what Merry was told in the Lord of the Rings about not giving up smoking but continuing and remembering King Theoden, continue watching Star Wars and remember a young Jedi you were honoured to know for a little while with laughing tears and fond memories.
 

Wow. Not what I expected to walk into. Not normally something I'd comment on, but I feel compelled to do so.

I know that since my first daughter was born, I've learned whole new degrees of emotions. Fortunately, those have been mostly positive emotions. One thing that I've noticed, especially as I've had more kids, is that my ability to love is greatly increased. I don't just mean my kids, either -- but everything that I love, I feel better able to do so since having kids.

I don't know if your experience is anything like mine. I hope so, because it's something very, very precious -- probably the most valuable thing I've gotten from my girls. It's also probably the most valuable thing I've got to offer to anyone else. It's something that I'd want to be able to hold onto no matter what. And, I know that if I could do that, then my girls would have a lasting impact on this world, even if the worst should happen.
 

I was moved almost to tears on reading your post, Kyle. I immediately thought of Bernard Hill's King Theoden in LotR - no parent should ever have to bury a child.

Two other thoughts came fast to my mind... the first by my step-uncle, who once told me, "crying isn't bad or wimpy or evil... its the physical evidence of the soul releasing pressure, much as steam comes out of a pressure cooker - and it's good because only that release keeps it from exploding."

You don't have to "be a man." You don't have to "not cry." As was previously mentioned, if you need to scream, yell, howl at the moon, whatever... do it. The worst thing you can do is try to swallow and hide your emotions - that only makes it worse. As others have suggested, you might want to see a grief counselor as well, but keep in mind that the reason you're going is NOT so you stop missing Kaleb. The reason you're going is because you DO miss Kaleb and need to learn how to deal with that.

The second thought was more of a reminder - this reminds me about "the order of happiness." A wise man was once asked, "what is the order of happiness?" After a moment, he replied, "grandparents die, parents die, children die..." The petitioner was shocked and said, "THAT'S happiness?" The wise man asked, "why, what order would you rather have it in?" Your story reinforced that point for me... I am fortunate to have both of my parents still alive... and both of my kids are alive and well, my wife is pregnant with a third... so far, we haven't had a miscarriage... I've been very fortunate. So while I can't understand the depths of your grief - I haven't been there myself - I can understand that you grieve... because I can imagine it happening to me (as other have said, you're living through every parent's worst nightmare).

I know religion is taboo on these boards, but I'll risk censure by saying that if you have religion in your life, now is the time to let that help you understand your place, and Kaleb's place in the universe - and if you're in a Judeo-Christian religion, a lot of prayer to God could also be helpful. You might also visit with your local pastor and ask him for some help dealing with your grief. I know I would lean heavily on my own religious beliefs to help me cope in a case like yours (I have a certain religious worldview that I can only imagine would comfort me in times like yours, but this not being a place to discuss religion, think that is about as far as I should go with that discussion). Religious faith often helps us get through the hard times in our lives, regardless of the religion in question.

God bless you, and I'll be praying for your heart to heal... not so you forget Kaleb, but so you can see him in the trees, the sky, the face of a thousand strangers, and in that way can live the rest of your life better for the brief time you spent together when he was a child.

*gives a hug*

--The Sigil
 

Kyle,
As a parent, I grieve with you. I am nearly speechless and I think other people have said anything I can think of at the moment. Hang in there and let yourself be a person. Remember the joy and let those memories fill the hollowness you feel right now. Get help as often as you need it. There is no shame in grief. There is no shame in pain.

I'm sorry.
David
 

Kyle,

I am not sure you check on this. But we are sorry for your loss. Doug tried to get a hold of you through your dad, but haven't heard from you so far. I am just letting you know that you can call us to talk if you want. Our number is listed. Otherwise we will try your dad's again.

Donna Joy
 

My thoughts and prayers are with you in this, Kyle.

The only advice I can give is much of the same that you've heard already. Throw yourself into anything, be it work, a hobby, or even simply a book. Keep your mind occupied; don't give it a chance to focus on the pain and loss. I would also talk to a grief conselor. I've never been myself, but a couple of my friends have and it did wonders for them.

My deepest sympathies,
Kane
 

I only now read this.

Words are such a big part of our lives, such an enormous part of MINE, and yet they're nothing. Noone should ever have to endure what you are enduring.

I can't possibly ease your pain. But my voice joins the others in telling you to live, live, live and LIVE as HARD as STRONG as INTENSE as you can.

Live, cause it's the only thing we can do in spite of death. And when it hurts and you feel like crying, cry, and you feel like yelling, yell. And then go back to living, and living, and living. And one day you'll laugh. I know you will. And Kaleb will be laughing through your lips that day, and saying he's happy that daddy isn't so sad anymore.

You brought me to tears. And thank you for that, because tears like these join us all together as people and humans against the real tragedies.

Be strong. You're never alone.
 

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