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Old Bryce Hospital, Tuscaloosa, AL

The Bryce Hospital was found several years before the Civil War. Its mental ward was notorious for its wretched treatment of mentally ill people. There are so many ghost stories come out of that wing of the hospital that its been closed off and not in use anymore.

Supposeably, these aren't the "scare you til you soil your pants" type ghosts. They're supposed to be much, much worse than that.
 

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Roanoke

I'm trying to remember stuff about Roanoke...anybody remember what was carved on the tree in the abandoned colony? (I can fill in more details later...)

Also, what's the deal with Peter Poor? Why should it read Tomhegan?
 
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And to add to the thread...

I now live next to a Navy base. The tales that surround this place are incredible...

1. There was once a Top-Secret bio-warfare lab on base in the sub-basement of a particular building. Here a number of germ and viral cultures were washed out into the desert during a freak flood during the mid 1980s. Among them the Hanta-virus.

Oddly, a large proliferation of literature concerning Hanta-virus precautions regularly circulates around base. Additionally, a geographic landmark on base has the nickname "The Hanta Hilton". Finally, yes, the noted flood did occur and cause extensive damage to the building in question.

2. There's a hollow mountain on base that hides Eyes-Only experimental technology. Everything from alien artifacts flown in from Nellis Airforce base (the site of the Groom Lake Research Project, more commonly known as "Area 51") to old Russian "psychotronic" technology is supposed to be hidden here.

There's not much to back up this rumour. Although access to the mountain-top in question is restricted, there is a jogging trail for base employees that runs around its base. Highly unlikely that unclassified employees would be allowed that close if there was something dreadfully important inside.

3. There's a hangar on base which is surrounded by many of the same tales as the mountain. This might have merit, as security is ectremely tight here. In fact, many of the security personnel aren't privy to what they're guarding. Even a Top-Secret clearance won't get you very far into this place. Real mystery here (though some people suspect that it is a decoy for another project).
 
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Re: Roanoke

The_Universe said:

Also, what's the deal with Peter Poor? Why should it read Tomhegan?

I don't know the tale, but I'll hazard a guess. "Tomhegan" was the name of the Indian, but the carver of the tombstone misinterpreted the name (whether written or spoken) as an American first and last name, Tom Hegan.

Again, just a guess.
 

Montgomery, Alabama

Of course, the various '13 Alabama Ghosts and Jeffery' books tell a lot of Southern hauntings.

Miss Priss

The State Capitol Building - The architect of Capitol
and Custodian reported seeing the ghost of a Confederate woman roaming the halls on the second floor offices. There have also been reports of water faucets turning on by themselves in the Governor's reception area restroom. Other witnesses have claimed to hear the cries of a baby in the basement offices. The Confederate widow is said to be woman whose son was killed in the Civil War. She now wanders the halls attempting to arrange a meeting with Jefferson Davis in hopes of finding out where her son is buried.

The Red Lady

Huntington College-Montgomery, Alabama: The ghost of the Red Lady has haunted Pratt Hall on this campus for many years. She was a student from New York who was obsessed with the color red. She always dressed in red, and her room on the fourth floor of Pratt Hall was decorated in a crimson hue. The girl, never accepted by her classmates, remained aloof, alone, and homesick. One day they found her in her room dressed in her red robe, underneath a red blanket, covered with bright red blood from her slashed wrists. After she died, strange flashes of red light were seen in her former room, as the girl's red-dressed ghost roamed the fourth-floor hall and terrified students.

The Iron Bridge

From another message board:

It all started in 1985 in Montgomery Alabama, we live just 8 miles from Montgomery AFB we had a house in Prattville. To get to the base I had to drive across an old iron bridge, in the old days it was a 2 way bridge, bur later they made it into a one way and built another bridge for the out going traffic, anyway, when I got to the bridge I car't explain it I had a fear I was terrified of that bridge, I would haul across going about 70 miles an hour, one day I took my friend to the base and I scared her to death I hauled again, she asked me why I was going so fast and for some reason I could not explain, All I knew was for some reason I was scared to death. about 6 years later when we moved to Colorado, I was watching Robert Stack doing his unsolved mysteries show, they were doing a segment on the Prattville to Montgomery bridge and of course the hair on my arms stood ! up, it appears in the 50's 3 black youths were murdered on that bridge some say that they committed sucide others say that they were murdered on that bridge by the KKK its hard to explain but I had a sensation of fear and torture I don't think that we will never know but I know in my heart that those boys were murdered I cannot explain the feelings I had, but I will tell you this I will never ever forget that bridge.

Now, my personal note. I've crossed that bridge many a time. I cannot imagine what it was like when it was two way, since that was before the time I could drive. But it must have been terrifying. That bridge is narrow and I've always been terrified of having to cross it. I'd do the same thing, floor it on the bridge and whip over it as fast as safely possible. Of course, I am scared of heights, too, and there is very little sense of safety on that sucker, let me tell you.

UFO Sightings

MONTGOMERY
7/24/48
2:45 AM. Eastern Airlines Flight 576 piloted by Clarence Chiles and co-piloted by Hohn Whitted. They saw a glowing wingless cylindrical object streak past the plane. It was about 100 feet long and 25-30 feet in diameter, with two rows of windows. The object seemed to be under intelligent control as it appeared to maneuver to avoid hitting them.

Project Sign spent months tracing the flight records of 225 civilian and military aircraft to eliminate the possibility that Chiles & Whitted had seen a conventional aircraft. ... Project Sign finally settled on calling it a meteor, but admitted that the description of the object and its maneuvers did not fit that explanation.

BIRMINGHAM
02/05/99
J Vinsant writes, "At about 4:25 A.M. on December 5, 1999, I woke up to see a bright white light had lit up my entire back yard. I woke my wife and she also witnessed the light. The light then slowly climbed up my windows at a very slow pace, as if it were rising from the ground. We then watched the darkness of our house light up for approximately ten to fifteen seconds. Just as the light climbed up the window the darkness climbed up it also. Two minutes later, I heard an explosion that rocked most of Birmingham and was passed off as a meteor. I live south of Birmingham on a five hundred acre farm. However, my concern is not the light or the sonic boom. My concern is the UFO that I witnessed with my wife and her parents. After I heard the sound I then walked outside and saw an oval/circular shape covered with lights that was hovering over the mountain. The lights would rotate around the dish and would flash bright like a light house when they shone in our direction. We watched for an hour and a half. The UFO flew around and hovered without making any sound. It would sometimes appear to be one bright light and sometimes it appeared to be a complete circular saucer.
 

More Roanoke

The Roanoke colony was seeded in 1587 by several men and women handpicked by Sir Walter Raleigh. The colony was left on Roanoke island, while the ships that carried them returned to England, planning to return with supplies in 6 months to a year. For various reasons (including England's war with Spain), he ships did not return as they were supposed to.

When Raleigh FINALLY did return (1-2 years late), the colony had been abandoned, and the crew of the ships surmised that they had been driven out by an Indian attack...but no bodies were found, buried at the site.

Carved on one of the palisades of the fort was the word, "Croaton" and on a tree, "Cro." The crew then supposed that this was the name of one of the tribes that had taken them in...maybe a chief. However, none of the tribes had seen the colonists, and none of the colonists themselves were found.

The mystery endures. None of the colonists were EVER found, nor were any of their bodies. However, there were stories of the odd blue-eyed native american filtering in throughout the colonial period. Nothing conclusive, though.

There it is! (the legend, anyway...I can hardly guarantee truth!)
 
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Re: Re: Roanoke

orbitalfreak said:


I don't know the tale, but I'll hazard a guess. "Tomhegan" was the name of the Indian, but the carver of the tombstone misinterpreted the name (whether written or spoken) as an American first and last name, Tom Hegan.

Again, just a guess.

Exactly.

Here's another one. I now live in Richmond, VA. There's a diner downtown that is built in what used to be a Civil War era hospital. It is supposedly haunted, and they have a big writeup about it on the back of their menu.
 

Re: Roanoke

The_Universe said:
I'm trying to remember stuff about Roanoke...anybody remember what was carved on the tree in the abandoned colony? (I can fill in more details later...)

The Roanoke colony was founded on Roanoke Island (apropriately enough) in 1587 by slighty more than 100 English men & women. They were led by a man named John White.

(A bit of off-topic trivia here...John White's daughter Eleanor Dare gave birth to the first European born in North America, Virginia Dare.)

John White returned to England to procure more supplies. Unfortunately he was stranded in England for 3 years due to war with the Spain.

When he finally returned to the colony, he found it deserted. Carved onto a wooden palisade that had been erected around the settlement (during White's absence) was the word "CROATOAN". Similarly on a nearby tree the letters "CRO" were carved.

Croatoan was the name of both a nearby island (Hatteras) & a local Indian tribe that had been friendly towards the colonists.

It is also of note that while the Croatoans had been allies of the colonists, relations had been strained after White had attacked them by accident thinking they were members of another (hostile) tribe.
 
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Another one from my neck of the woods. Quoted from the "Unsolved Mysteries" website:

Fabled throughout the South as the region's most haunted house, Myrtle's Plantation was built in 1796 by Whiskey Rebellion leader, Gen. David Bradford. When George Washington put a price on his head, Bradford fled his native Pennsylvania for the Spanish-ruled Louisiana territory. Bradford purchased 650 acres not far from Baton Rouge in the bayou outside a town called St. Francisville. Choosing to build the house on the high point of the property, which turned out to be on ancient Tunica Indian burial grounds, may have sealed the fate of this beautiful antebellum mansion and plantation.
The house eventually belonged to Bradford's daughter, Sarah, and her husband, Judge Clark Woodruffe. A slave named Chloe was the family governess and mistress of the Judge. Cast aside for another slave, Chloe was hung after she killed Sarah and her two daughters in a jealous rage. Since her death, many have seen Chloe's ghost, who is said to be wearing a green turban, hovering over beds and peering anxiously into the faces of those sleeping. Another ghost is former owner, attorney William Winter, who was shot when he opened his front door after being called out by a man on horseback. Wounded, Winter managed to stumble back inside and began to climb the stairs when he collapsed on the seventeenth step and died. His ghost can be heard thumping across the foyer and climbing 17 of the 20 steps before the sound fades.

Some say that Gen. Bradford saw the first ghost - a naked Indian girl in the backyard gazebo. Some visitors have seen two young girls peering into bedroom windows or standing at the foot of their beds. Another child delights in jumping up and down on freshly made beds; a maid follows behind smoothing the sheets. And a strange man in khaki tells visitors at the gate that the Myrtles is not open for business.

The current owners insist they didn't know about the otherworldly presences when they bought the house. They are not interested in holding séances on the property, nor do they feel that any of the Myrtles spirits are evil, though they have volumes of pictures and testimonials from hundreds of visitors describing the spirits

*edit: helps to actually put in the quote...
 
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