(OT) Monte Cook's most recent rant.....

People in our society are not used to fight for food. They won't do it until the food really starts to run out. Which won't happen, if they act smart and immediately start restoring agriculture.
I think your comments are wildly divorced from reality. People will fight over cabbage-patch dolls; they'll definitely fight over food. They'll also fight over gasoline. I don't know what the gas crises of the 70's were like in Italy, but things got ugly in the US, and that was with gas still coming in regularly, just not in large enough quantities.
 

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The more people have died, the more the reserves will last. The less people have died, the less time it will take to become able to replenish those reserves.
Let's assume no one dies from the apocalypse. Let's just assume someone sabotages the power grid or that something terrible happened somewhere else, but no one died here. How are you supposed to replenish food, fuel, and water reserves in the middle of an asphalt desert with millions of people?

And have you ever worked in a grocery store? There aren't vast reserves of food. When a snow storm is coming, most grocery stores immediately run out of staples like bread and milk. That's without an apocalypse.
 

Furn_Darkside said:
Err.. I have seen fights break out at supermarkets when blizzards are scheduled to arrive.
Ok, but that's because they fear there is not enough food for everyone.

Picture entering a supermarket, together with ten other people. Rows upon rows of loaded shelves stretch before you, the shining plastic tags inviting you to purchase the latest DVD player or the cheapest tomatoes.

The buzz of the refrigerators from the frozen food section is absent, though. And you and the other guys are the only clients.

Row upon row of tons and tons of foods that will last for years stare at you in the silence. You know there are ten more supermarkets in town.

What's the reason to fight?
 

The initial key to survival will ultimately be ones willingness to kill ones neighbor. Think about it. In the absence of law and order I catch you trying to steal food and supplies from me and my family. What are my choices?
 

Zappo said:
Ok, but that's because they fear there is not enough food for everyone.

Picture entering a supermarket, together with ten other people. Rows upon rows of loaded shelves stretch before you,

and then getting blasted in the back from the apocalypse nut down the street who got there before you...dude, there are folks all around the world with maps and plans for taking over your local wal-mart already laid out, bring your shotgun and kevlar, cause someone else is already polishing and loading.
 

alsih2o said:

...dude, there are folks all around the world with maps and plans for taking over your local wal-mart already laid out, bring your shotgun and kevlar, cause someone else is already polishing and loading.

Wow, I guess we know what you are doing with your spare time alsih20!

No, please, don't get angry!

FD
 

Furn_Darkside said:


Wow, I guess we know what you are doing with your spare time alsih20!

No, please, don't get angry!

FD

furn! i am warning you for the last time!!! :p

but really, i just spent a while in west virgina, whew! those folks have some plans!
 
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Darraketh said:
Anyplace where there are thousands of people dead will likely have the buildings destroyed and or contaminated also.

I love end of the world-type books, and it depends on how it happens.

The Stand certainly does not have that problem. (Ok, a few cities go, but not due to the reason that killed all of the people in the world.)

Swan Song certainly involves the destruction of most of the world.

Night Beasts leaves the buildings intact, and most of the people eaten. haha.

FD
 

Re: Re: (OT) Monte Cook's most recent rant.....

Teflon Billy said:


I remember watching the TV for about 20 hours straight on Sept. 11th and tehy kept trotting out mid-level politico after mid-level politico to give the press a statement on what had happened (like I really cared what the deputy secretary of agriculture had to say on the subject:)) as the President scuttled from airforce base to airforce base.

Virtually all of them trotted out the "Coward" tag for the terrosists.

All ic ould think was "were they just watching what I was watching. Evil? Certainly. Despicable? No question. Cowardly?

Nuh uh.

I can't imagine how a suicide pilot could fit into a cockpit with (metaphorically) balls that big.

It is COAWARDLY to attack the Wold Trade Centers. Their targets were peaceful. Their victims civilians. What they did was the equivalent of shooting the grandmother of the biggest mob family in the world. Yeah, the reprisals are going to be so big that it had to take a man that was courageous. But really, she (and the towers) were not the threat and no matter how big a man's anatomy, it still makes him have a little brain and coward.
 

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