[OT] Sniper plays D&D?

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Mark said:


I think it's a perfectly kromulent word. It describes shallow water fishing without a lure.

(If no one follows with the obvious, I will be quite disappointed. In fact, if someone follows with (roughly) the response that I am thinking, they win a copy of The Whispering Woodwind.) :)


Yeah Mark, but the problem with sarcasting is that you tend to get all gooey and wet from the sargassum.

my edit was: prepositions are really over-rated, but some people tend to like them...
 
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Even worse is a magazine article about the American Taliban John Walker. They mention that as a preteen he played imaginary games about Knights and Ogres.... :(
 

Is it really jaded of me to not be impressed by the Tarot card? It's just so cliched. I mean, if this were a movie, we'd see the Tarot card and then see Morgan Freeman say, "The Death Card", and the audience would all groan or laugh.

For crying out loud, show some originality if you're gonna flip out and get yourself caught and thrown in jail for life because you got picked on in high school by the football players and were abused or neglected by your parents.

I can just imagine the killer talking to one of his antisocial buddies:

Killer: You know how they'll know it's me? I'm gonna leave a little calling card with a picture of a CROW on it. 'Cause in Indian stories, the crow leads people into the death lands...

Friend: Yeah, like in the movies.

Killer: What?

Friend: Yeah, the movie, with Bruce Lee's son. And the sequel, and the other sequel, and the syndicated series...

Killer: Son of a.. EVERYONE knows about the crow thing?

Friend: Yep. Didn't you see the movie?

Killer: No, I was playing D&D a lot back then. Dangit. Okay, new plan... Ah, screw it, I'm just gonna drop the Tarot card.

The NRA folks have got to just be breathing a huge sigh of relief at how the Tarot card neatly shifts blame from whackos with assault rifles over to New Age and occult-type stuff. I wouldn't be surprised to read about how law enforcement officials were aided by Charlton Heston, who just happened to be on the scene and actually discovered the Tarot card himself while walking alone in a deserted location:

"My goodness," Heston reportedly said loudly while looking around, "this might have something to do with the investigation." Heston then reportedly bent down, shuffled his hand around a bit, and came up holding the Tarot card. "And it's not still warm from being in my pocket or ANYTHING," Heston added helpfully.

-Tacky
 

Celebrim said:

We are dealing with another Kebold and Harris. We are dealing with another set of 'Beautiful Creatures'. I think we will find out there are two of them.


I dunno who this Harris guy is, but I want to take this opportunity to categorically deny any kobold involvement in this or any case. Kobolds are a peace-loving, educated race, and we will not accept this slandering by the media.

We are, however, quite "beautiful creatures."

:)
 

I think that we really know very little about the sniper or snipers. For all we know, the Tarot card could have been a message to police or a way to throw them off the trail.

Role playing games attract all sorts of personalities. When you have a large number of people involved in a hobby, some people will have problems. Also, a lot of people try RPGs for a while and move on.

I think most reasonable people do not have an image of role players as mentally unbalanced or dangerous. Anything can be used for evil purposes. Darkness mentioned a murder case where the victim was lured with Magic cards. However, I doubt that any reasonable person blamed the card game. The fault lies with the criminals, not a hobby.

So, I would say not to get too worried over this. Mind you, I do feel badly for the sniper's victims and the young man in Germany.

Also, let's avoid political commentary. I do not want our moderators to work any harder than they have to on this thread.
 

Regarding this guy having a military background, when I first listened to the sensationalized press reports, that was my first inclination too. After all, he has 'been hitting with one shot from a very great distance consistantly', or so they say.

Problem is, the press has a very naive civvy notion of what 'a very great distance' is. I realize that the sniper is probably constrained by short lines of sight in a city environment, but the fact of the matter is that no military sniper is going to take shots from 150 or 200 yards. That is NOT a very great distance for a rifle with a scope. A military sniper is going to be more comfortable at 400-500 yards. Some of them are better than that. Alot of real snipers train at 600-700 yards. A mere 150-200 yards is not an exceptional shot even for an average shooter with a high powered rifle. I've seen my Dad knock over running deer from 300-400 yards consistantly with one shot, and while he is a very good shot (or was before his eyes started going out) he is several degrees of skill below a really top caliber distance shooter.

So, I'm not even necessarily inclined to think this guy is all that good. If it is really about ego and not getting caught, you'd think he would be happier taking his shooting out to the 300-400 yard range. It's not like he seems to care who he is shooting at, so he could theoretically pick any line of sight he wants.
 

Celebrim said:
We are dealing with another Kebold and Harris. We are dealing with another set of 'Beautiful Creatures'. I think we will find out there are two of them.
The most recent report of an attack mentioned 2 men escaping in a vehicle. There may well be 2 people behind these shootings.

Klebold & Harris, however, shot people they knew. "Heavenly Creatures" depicted 2 New Zealand girls who murdered the mother of one. Aside from any media-spawned hysteria about the evils of role-playing, I'm not sure the current killing spree really compares to either of the previous.
 
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Originally posted by Aristotle

...Survivalist Groups and Militias are still a threat to our country and our people. I would also point out that the acts of terrorism that these groups commit often lack the common hallmarks of traditional terrorism. I would also point out that even if the gunmen have no military training they would still have access to such training and equipment through one of these organizations.

If we are playing "guess who" then I would put my money on a gun bunny from some well organized militia group. This may be an even worse case scenario then the ex-military sniper however. What the gun bunny would lack for in training he would make up for with a well organized network of contacts and safe houses.
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Oh. Ok. Sure. It's the NRA's fault now. Or whatever survivalist group has safehouses. Safehouses???

I don't know if you've been to a shooting range lately, or another place where us crazy-nutziod NRA folks hang out, but I can assure you that the attitude towards the sniper IS NOT one that would inspire us to house the sniper in a safehouse! More likely, the sniper would be tied up to the 100 yard range marker and the shooters would fire at will.

Don't you realize that perhaps, *maybe*, gun enthusiasts like myself don't enjoy having crazies go shooting people becasue the rest of the country is so quick to damn us??? Sound familiar?

BINGO! Yes! It is the same reason dnd players don't like to have their hobby brought up on Court TV.

<But hey, they're all gun nuts, so they would definitely help a killer out as long as that person was using a GUN!>

Lame, lame, lame, lame, lame. Can't attack dnd but you can attack gun enthusiasts. Sheesh. You have no idea how much your post incenced me. To make it even, I should comment on your other favorite hobby and it's obvious connection to the sniper and how you should be investigated. But that would be silly and ungrounded, wouldn't it?


ANYway,

150 to 200 yards is not a long enough distance for millitary personnel to consider using a sniper rifle. An M-4 assualt rifle is accurate to 700 yards (at least, as long as there is a marine behind the trigger.) If this chump is using a high powered sniper rifle, he isn't millitary. His safety would increase by factors the farther his position is away from his target. He's not getting farther away because he doesn't feel comfortable at longer distances. Not comfortable at long distances is not a hallmark of a US issue sniper.

Nope. Not millitary. Perhaps self taught at ranges, but not millitary.
 

Hey Felix,

Just wanted to apologize for the jab at Heston. I've got buddies who hunt or sport-shoot, and I know that they're as embarrassed and frustrated with right-wing militia whackos giving their hobby a bad name as I am with power-fantasy geekboys killing their little sisters because "The Dungeon Master told me to."

-Tacky
 


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