D&D (2024) Overthinking Long Rest in 2024

[Mistwell]

Which is great by most business standards, but not compared to Starbucks in the US. Most US states and even some cities have more Starbucks than New Zealand and Australia combined. California has close to 3,000 Starbucks. Source.

California has over 10 Million more people than Australian and New Zealand combined, and Starbucks started on the west coast of America in 1971 and only arrived in Australia in the 2000s. I'd say they're doing fine.

 

[Mistwell]

Context our gas stations serve barista coffee. And they're better than Starbucks.

You can be driving down the road and there's a caravan set up and someones running a coffee stand side of the road. Probably near an honesty box.

If you're after a basic coffee there's not much point going to Starbucks.

Yes our gas stations and road side carts exist too.

I get you don't like Starbucks coffee.

But like literally almost every topic here, I find myself once again saying your tastes are not universal, despite you posting like they are.

 

[Zardnaar]

California has over 10 Million more people than Australian and New Zealand combined, and Starbucks started on the west coast of America in 1971 and only arrived in Australia in the 2000s. I'd say they're doing fine.

They closed a heap of Starbucks in Australia. Over half iirc.

Big difference between 100 odd vs 3000. Starbucks doesn't meet the "better than a gas station coffee gere". I suspect their iced drinks keep them going. To be fair i haven't tried Starbucks in years. Wasn't impressed.

Americans here generally lije our pies, coffee, chocolate and beer. They'll complain about Tacos and Pizza though. NYC style pizza here Is kinda bland.

You can find an an Australian stle coffee place in NYC for $7 or $8 usd a coffee. Double the price here. You xan get a coffee coupon at the supermarket for a $1.20 batista coffee (machine bear the checkouts). Full price is sonet8nf like $2 or $3. It's not great but pretty good for the price.

You can get American products at the supermarket in the international section. Potato chips, soda, chocolate are kinda meh. I coukdnt taste the difference between out coke and Mexivan coke. American soda tastes off.

Some American chocolate here can't legally be sold as chocolate. Chocolate flavored xyz.

 

[Zardnaar]

Yes our gas stations and road side carts exist too.

I get you don't like Starbucks coffee.

But like literally almost every topic here, I find myself once again saying your tastes are not universal, despite you posting like they are.

I'm not claimng it's my opinions universal. Starbucks just not very popular. Other American stuff is.

Comparing Starbucks numbers in Colorado vs NZ probably fairer.

 

[Scribe]

In 1964, a man spent over 11 days awake and he didn't die from having 6 levels of exhaustion.

Neither did Robert McDonald, who in 1986, stayed up for 19 days.

I have to wonder how functional either of them were.

 

[James Gasik]

I have to wonder how functional either of them were.

I can't imagine very, but it's still a far cry from "don't sleep for 6 days and die".

 

[mellored]

I can't imagine very, but it's still a far cry from "don't sleep for 6 days and die".

Rangers can reduce exhaustion with a short rest.

 

[James Gasik]

Rangers can reduce exhaustion with a short rest.

Yes, but it's not like any human who has managed to stay awake for a week or more is a 10th level Ranger.

 

[Xeviat]

Yes, but it's not like any human who has managed to stay awake for a week or more is a 10th level Ranger.

Maybe being semi sedentary, or at least relaxed, would have a different effect on your accumulation and recovery of exhaustion. Adventuring is hard work, but the sleep is reeeeeaaaaaal good after a day of hiking and laborious activity. A relaxed civilized day, or a day at home with books and girl dinner doesn't tire you out as much.

If I wanted to make D&D more simulationist, I'd probably have "stay up late, power through, don't get exhausted" be an endurance check that gets progressively harder, and you only suffer Exhaustion on a failure.

 

[Bayushi_seikuro]

And Australia’s coffee tradition is Italian, though I guess inventing the flat white is enough to claim your own identity. I’m an Aussie-born American who lived 5 years in Seattle and goes back there regularly. Seattle has its own coffee culture of which Starbucks is some kind of weird mutated export. My sense is they are now entering a very slow decline, but they’re undeniably massive and mediocre.

Here we are getting into subjectivity again. First D&D, then beer, now coffee.

It sounds like, to me, Starbucks then is the Seattle version of the way Australians feel about Fosters. My understanding is No True Aussie drinks the oil can of it.