Pathfinder 1E Paizo no longer publishing Dungeon and Dragon

[Prince of Happiness]

Your friend shouldn't scrap that idea. As I stated in my letter to my advertising clients this morning:

"These final issues will be highly collectible and we expect the sell-through on them to sky-rocket. If you have a 2007 release, these issues are still the best place to announce them and advertise them!"

If your friend is releasing something by the end of the year, Dragon and Dungeon are still the best place to advertise them.

I'll let him know. He's the dude that's selling Fantasia on the Paizo site.

 

[bento]

At least I won't have to keep going to my mailbox everyday disappointed that my Dungeon subscription still hasn't shown up!

Seriously though, I think Paizo has made some good decisions in the past few months with announcing partnerships, new product lines and a new publishing arm for pulp fantasy & sci-fi.

I guess the one thing I'll lament is seeing the latest issue of Dungeon or Dragon at the newsstand at Barnes & Nobles or Books-a-Million. I hate to see you guys losing visibility with the general market, especially with players who have just purchased their first D&D book. Getting an issue of Dragon magazine has always been an easy way to get new players sucked into all that this hobby offers.

Good luck Paizo and I look forward to your new endevours!

 

[Jdvn1]

Whoa!

There was so much I wanted to see from them!

Man, this sucks.

 

[Presto2112]

Stephen R. Donaldson once wrote: If you want to hurt a man - take something he loves and give it back to him broken.

He was right.

Wow. QFT.

 

[Odhanan]

For the WotC side of things, see here:

WOTC Press Releasehttp://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/news/20070419a

Quote: “Today the internet is where people go to get this kind of information,” said Scott Rouse, Senior Brand Manager of Dungeons & Dragons®, Wizards of the Coast. “By moving to an online model we are using a delivery system that broadens our reach to fans around the world. Paizo has been a great partner to us over the last several years. We wish them well on their future endeavors.”

 

[trancejeremy]

I think this move by WOTC was inevitable, once WOTC started publishing more and more adventures themselves.

I mean, one of the things that have hurt 3rd party publishers who did adventures was having to compete with Dungeon magazine. Why pay $12 for a 32 page module, when you get get 2-3 adventures in Dungeon for $6 or so. "Official" adventures, no less.

But they were also competing with WOTC themselves. For much of the time, WOTC didn't care, because they weren't publishing adventures, or if they did, it was infrequent. But now they seem to be getting into it more (since they've largely run out of ideas for splatbooks, I guess), both the larger books, and smaller, insanely priced ones ($20 for 64 pages?). And so Dungeon had to go.

 

[Ranger REG]

Shame on WotC and Hasbro for this. Your customers will NEVER EVER forgive you for this; nor should they.

Until they find another print publisher.

Say what you want about Lorraine Williams - even she would not have done this.

Oh yes, she would. If she had it her ways, it would be Buck Rogers magazine.

Stephen R. Donaldson once wrote: If you want to hurt a man - take something he loves and give it back to him broken.

He was right.

Unfortunately, not to the many who praise for online subscription (the silent majority). We here are just the vocal minority.

 

[Sammael]

Those minis people spend more time posting on other websites than on their own company's website.

Yes. Because:

1) Most of the "high-profile" fans (including several DDM world champions) do not post on the WotC forums, but on Hordelings instead. Since they obviously want to know the opinions of people with that level of dedication to DDM, it makes sense for them to spend time on those forums.

2) WotC mini forums are often congested with irrelevant posts which are hard to sift through.

3) A lot of WotC forum regulars are rude and/or obnoxious.

4) WotC forums are down at least once per day.

I am frankly amazed that anybody still posts over there...

 

[Jdvn1]

"We have top men working on it."
"Who?"
"Top. Men."

Looks like Wayne Reynolds is doing a lot of their art--looks very cool!

I wonder if I can get my group to go in on a Pathfinder subscription with me.

 

[Steel_Wind]

Paizo is emphatically NOT going out of business. 2006 was the most profitable year in the company's history and we have several revenue streams other than the magazines. So far the positive reaction to Pathfinder suggests to me that we may be able to continue serving a significant portion of our current customer base, which is great.

Erik,

Your product's strength was not that 100% approved thingie in the corner. It was the quality of your work.

If you are behind this and will field the same level of quality and writing? I'll buy Pathfinder- But I am truly worried about the lack of a major print magazine with advertising. The hobby games trade needs a means to advertise new products to people effectively. Dragon and Dungeon were that platform.

I'm with ya man. You put it out - I'll buy it.

This whole thing smells like treachery though.