Pathfinder 1E Paizo sets price of Pathfinder RPG PDF at $9.99!!!!!

[seankreynolds]

/me sighs.
I know that whenever we get to a point in a discussion where one person is claiming everyone else "just doesn't get it" and how it's so obvious and "why is this so hard for you" -- as if everyone else is dense... well, I know the conversation is over. So, thanks for the chat.

Very mature of you, aboyd.

And I'd like to applaud everyone in this thread, everyone's been level-headed on all sides of the discussion.

 

[ProfessorCirno]

I don't know why this is hard for people. Of course cheap pdfs hurt stores that sell more expensive hardcopy.

We get it - you're just wrong.

Admin here. Remember that part where I said it's fine to disagree with people but don't be a jerk when you're doing so? That part? Yeah -- you forgot, and you really need to remember. Ping me if this is in any way unclear. ~ Piratecat

 

[Twowolves]

And I'd like to applaud everyone in this thread, everyone's been level-headed on all sides of the discussion.

WHATT??!! How dare you! GrrrIoughttapoundyouone!!!!

 

[Obryn]

I don't know why this is hard for people. Of course cheap pdfs hurt stores that sell more expensive hardcopy. An alternatives to purchase in stores hurts stores. Cheap, convenient alternatives to purchase in stores hurts stores more. This shouldn't be controversial.

I'll raise my hand, because I guess it's hard for me.

Is there any evidence that this is actually the case? I don't think you can compare it to something like music, where (at this point in history) the digital product is 98% identical to the physical product. This is a very different market, and I'm not really buying that the two formats are essentially interchangeable. "Of course it is" doesn't cut it for me, evidence-wise.

I mean, I know game store owners have complained - and will continue to complain - that PDFs are eroding their sales, but frankly game store owners say a lot of things, some more reasonable than others.

Yes, I know you don't have a horse in this race - I don't either, and I don't know it would matter if I did - but my skeptic sense is seriously tingling.

-O

 

[Treebore]

I'll raise my hand, because I guess it's hard for me.

Is there any evidence that this is actually the case? I don't think you can compare it to something like music, where (at this point in history) the digital product is 98% identical to the physical product. This is a very different market, and I'm not really buying that the two formats are essentially interchangeable. "Of course it is" doesn't cut it for me, evidence-wise.

I mean, I know game store owners have complained - and will continue to complain - that PDFs are eroding their sales, but frankly game store owners say a lot of things, some more reasonable than others.

Yes, I know you don't have a horse in this race - I don't either, and I don't know it would matter if I did - but my skeptic sense is seriously tingling.

-O

Considering that both WOTC, and Goodman, have said that PDF sales have hardly any effect on their profits, I would say that for those who listen to such information know that PDF's cause no measurable effect on the sales of any LGS. None that an LGS can prove, at least. They can certainly claim whatever they wish, though.

 

[Dark Mistress]

So... yeah. I think Lisa is wrong. EM misreads Lisa. You misread EM.

You know you could just as easily be misreading her intent you know. Eric knows her a lot better. Not to mention you could be wrong as well. I am not saying you are or you are not. But your posting smacks of arrogance like you are the only one that gets it and anyone that doesn't is dellusional. Just saying, personally from seeing Lisa post before I am willing to give her a grain of salt and take what she said in the spirit of the comment aka like what Eric said, until I see a reason to take it otherwise.

The internet lacks tone of voice and body language and makes things much easier to misunderstand.

 

[Sundaram]

I really do think this is an amazingly smart move. They're giving out the PDFs for free to subscribers anyway, which means that free copes are going to be up on torrent sites lightning quick. There will be those that download it for free, but this way they can tap into those that are willing to pay a reasonable price. Some of those people, who clearly wouldn't have bought the hardcover before, now will.

That's the iTunes strategy for RPGs, people. It will help sell books in the stores as well as to Paizo directly. I wish other game companies would have been so smart.

This is what I was thinking

And this:

Smart move by Paizo, maybe now people will buy it instead of pirating it a week or two after release.

 

[ssampier]

Awesome. I would probably buy this to "try it out", so to speak. Once you go pf....

As for the retailers, well retail is hard all around. The retailers are just looking for an easy scapegoat.

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

SKR's tanned, bald head both frightens and intrigues me.

And that's just the outside.

 

[Krensky]

I don't know why this is hard for people. Of course cheap pdfs hurt stores that sell more expensive hardcopy. An alternatives to purchase in stores hurts stores. Cheap, convenient alternatives to purchase in stores hurts stores more. This shouldn't be controversial.

Considering that the side saying this hurts stores has no evidence to support it, and the other side has the statements regarding the volume of ebook versus paper sales and the example of Baen Books who gives massive amounts of their catalog away for free as ebooks and sells the same ebooks at the same for less then the paperback, and gets higher sales for those titles in both electronic and paper then ones only available in paper. Jim Baen said this many times, and Eric Flint's said it many times. Heck, Flint gives everything he writes away for free after a few months and still makes royalties on both electronic and paper versions.

As for you not fitting neatly into Lisa's rhetorical generalization, so? It was a generalization.