Party Levels for G1-3,D1-3,Q1

[Vaxalon]

I ran it for 7-8th level characters, and they did fine when they went in snooping in stealth mode, but after that they started having real problems. They'd go in on a raid, kill a few giants, then run away when the whole horde got riled up. They arranged a few ambushes out in the hinterlands and soon the giants stopped chasing them, they just camped in one big muddle in the main hall, basically under siege.

Now that they're getting to 9-10th level, G2 isn't too far away.

 

[HeavyG]

My gut feeling is that you would need at least 50 PC levels to make it through the Dinner Party fight. 70 is probably a better number though.

Yeah, but it's easy to avoid. If the party is strong enough to fight an encounter that has been set up so that PCs should avoid it, the rest of the adventure will be waaaay too easy.

Really, the default mission of the party here is gathering information, not killing every giant.

 

[Leopold]

Yeah, but it's easy to avoid. If the party is strong enough to fight an encounter that has been set up so that PCs should avoid it, the rest of the adventure will be waaaay too easy.

Really, the default mission of the party here is gathering information, not killing every giant.

HAHAHAHAHAHA You make me laugh...how often has there EVER been a party that is sent in for recon and NOT engaged in mass combat. I have yet to meet a party that went into the G series and did not end up in some sort of grand melee.

As you said, the point in the whole module is to simply go in, find the info on who's behind it, and come out with the data. Once that is done the local barony will aid in it's destruction.

I have yet to see this nor hear of this done, even the book that was written had the slaughterfest2000 go on. The book...don't remind me...

 

[HeavyG]

HAHAHAHAHAHA You make me laugh...

Happy to have brightened your day...

how often has there EVER been a party that is sent in for recon and NOT engaged in mass combat. I have yet to meet a party that went into the G series and did not end up in some sort of grand melee.

Well, yeah, if you let them go in with 14th level characters, of course they'll attack.

Which is why you run this adventure at a reasonable level. Then, if they get stupid and charge a group of 25 giants, they die. Problem solved. Thank you for playing.

I have yet to see this nor hear of this done, even the book that was written had the slaughterfest2000 go on.

Just for the record, of the three times I ran the adventure, 2 parties avoided the central room and one assaulted it. So now you won't be able to say you have yet to hear about it.

The book...don't remind me...

Aarggh. Now you have reminded me. I was trying to forget it, too.

 

[Leopold]

well you are the rare case then. How did they manage to skirt the main room? Did they go in only one time or in waves? My pc's went in full bore and got kicked out of the main room after waves of giants surrounded them on 3/4 sides with only retreat the option. Every time they INSIST on taking out the main giants instead of scouting around.

 

[RedShirtNo5]

We are currently doing G1. Most of us played or DMed the G series years ago. We created characters at the middle of 8th level, 32 point buy, 30k gp equipment. Our reasonably min/maxed group includes

human wizard(transmuter) 8
human cleric 8
human fighter 8
human bard 8
human fighter/rogue 2/6
dwarf barbarian/fighter 2/6
elf ranger/wizard 7/1
elf ranger/rogue 4/4

Our given mission is actually to kill the giants, not just figure out the plot.

I feel that this is an appropriate group. We've stayed alive using hit-and-run tactics. We would have been wiped out by the dinner party, but we ran after just two rounds of combat.

-RedShirt

 

[kobold]

Our group is usually 3-4 players, rarely as many as 6, meeting every 2-3 weeks. (Being adults with kids and jobs has really messed up our gaming! Darn reality) We've been playing as a group for about 16 years so for the most part our hack-and -slash years are behind us (sometimes I think thats unfortunate). So it sounds like 9-10th level is a good start for the G series. Now anybody have some conversion notes, since the conversion library is down? And should this be moved to another fourm?

 

[trentonjoe]

There is a conversion on the conversion forum it is oh I can't remember ,

something like is this done right or is this legal

 

[trentonjoe]

here is a link to a link:

http://www.enworld.org/messageboards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7025

 

[shilsen]

HAHAHAHAHAHA You make me laugh...how often has there EVER been a party that is sent in for recon and NOT engaged in mass combat. I have yet to meet a party that went into the G series and did not end up in some sort of grand melee.

As you said, the point in the whole module is to simply go in, find the info on who's behind it, and come out with the data. Once that is done the local barony will aid in it's destruction.

I have yet to see this nor hear of this done, even the book that was written had the slaughterfest2000 go on. The book...don't remind me...

HeavyG's players aren't the only ones to stick to the recon job. My five-member party (I wasn't DM-ing), all at about 8th-9th level, did the same, even though a couple had grandiose plans for wiping out the giants. My PC (the nominal leader) disagreed, since we had already fought some giants, so we knew there wasn't a chance we could take the dinner party. After we'd snuck around, killed a number of isolated giants, and found out a lot about the place and its defenses, the party wizard (he was the one most interested in fighting) decided to sneak into the hall and fire off a few spells, hoping that the rest of the party would feel honor-bound to back him up and we'd end up fighting. We left him and he rolled up a new character