PF2 Pathfinder 2 class/build guides?

niklinna

Explorer
Is anybody working on class/build guides for Pathfinder 2? If so, where will they end up? The Character Builds & Optimization subforum here on enworld seems to be only for D&D so I didn't want to post this question there.
 

CapnZapp

Hero
If so, where will they end up? The Character Builds & Optimization subforum here on enworld seems to be only for D&D so I didn't want to post this question there.
This latter question probably belongs in Meta, but as a random bystander's guess: I expect them to happen in Character Builds & Optimization. That there aren't any now is probably not because that forum is somehow restricted. It's probably because the game isn't even a month old!! :)
 

TwoSix

The hero you deserve
You're probably better off looking in the Paizo forums, as that usually had the largest quantity of guides in the PF1 era. Second place I'd look is the GiantITP forums, which have more of an optimization bent. ENWorld certainly has it charms, but it's not a real repository of CharOp expertise, outside of a few posters.
 

Campbell

Relaxed Intensity
I think something more like a strategy guide that weighs situational benefits would be more worthwhile. Generally build will affect the decisions you make in play, but the core math of your character is independent of things like class feat choice. Independent of analyzing the situation you find yourself in it is hard to make a determination if Furious Finish or No Escape is meaningfully better than the other.

So much is also dependent on the other members of your party. Powerful attacks like Furious Finish and Power Attack are way better if you have a Wizard who specializes in debuffs.
 

Phion

Explorer
I haven't even had a chance to play it despite having the book a few days after it was released. The joys of adult life and work.
 

Kaodi

Adventurer
I was just brainstorming a character that could be kinda funny. I call it The Prestidigitator - a character built to prepare the maximum possible number of cantrips per day. Take a gnome or an elf, both of which can get two cantrips from heritage and ancestry feats, make them a specialist wizard so you can prepare another six cantrips, take a cleric, druid, or sorcerer dedication and then get cantrip expansion with it, get a second dedication, then a third. Either the second or third should be bard and you get inspirational performance (for a composition cantrip) and then esoteric polymath, which I think would let you prepare another cantrip (at least as written). And then get your fourth dedication at 20. You end up with 18 or 19 daily cantrips, all heightened to level 10. Of course you have to prepare prestidigitation every day, because why else would you be playing this character?
 

Kaodi

Adventurer
Suddenly occurs to me that, ironically, if you are not looking to multi-class generally that Cantrip Expansion is a bit of a trap option. You will pretty much always be better off getting a Dedication feat for Cleric, Druid, or Wizard than you will just getting Cantrip Expansion if you can afford to start with a 14 in the appropriate stat. I was thinking about this because potentially if you are an Arcane Sorcerer and get Wizard Dedication at level 2 you are getting a two level head start on collecting spells for when you get Arcane Evolution at level 4.
 

CapnZapp

Hero
Suddenly occurs to me that, ironically, if you are not looking to multi-class generally that Cantrip Expansion is a bit of a trap option. You will pretty much always be better off getting a Dedication feat for Cleric, Druid, or Wizard than you will just getting Cantrip Expansion if you can afford to start with a 14 in the appropriate stat. I was thinking about this because potentially if you are an Arcane Sorcerer and get Wizard Dedication at level 2 you are getting a two level head start on collecting spells for when you get Arcane Evolution at level 4.
Either you are looking to multi-class, and are planning to get a Dedication feat.... or you don't, so...?

I think a much more generous rephrasing would be Cantrip Expansion is great when you don't want to bother with Dedication feats and their prerequisites, and just want a quick cantrip to enhance your PC's characterization.
 

Campbell

Relaxed Intensity
Cantrips gained from Dedication feats use the ability score for that class and the spell casting proficiency associated with the tradition.

If a wizard picked up Sorcerer dedication they have to use Charisma for those Cantrips. Luckily Arcane proficiency applies so gains in Arcane proficiency from being a a Wizard would help with DCs and spell attacks.

If a Cleric picks up Druid Dedication they still get to use Wisdom. However those Druid cantrips use Primal spell casting proficiency. Over time their spell attacks and DCs would fall behind. To keep up they need to continue taking spell casting feats.

There is a seperate Proficiency for each tradition.
 

Kaodi

Adventurer
There are a number of cantrips with core functions (detect magic, read aura, and shield in particular) for which your proficiency bonus is absolutely meaningless. You use the slots from your dedication to prepare those and keep your primary slots for attack spells.
 

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