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PCGen 2.4.0 Released

Leopold

Management(tm)
PCGen is a java character generator and maintenance
program aimed at supporting all d20 games such as D&D
Third Edition, Star Wars, and others. All datafiles
are ASCII so they can be modified by users. An XML conversion is underway.

Here's the list of Bugs that have been fixed and
features that have been added. If you reported one of
these, please verify that it is was addressed properly. PCGen is available at
http://pcgen.sourceforge.net, and the main discussion
group is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen. Be
sure to download both parts of PCGen... pcgen240.zip
(the app itself) and data240.zip (the data files).

We've got some OS-specific installs of PCGen to help
those who have trouble installing the generic version.At
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen/files/Alternate PCGen Releases/
you will find a list of these releases which you can
use if you have trouble with the version you find
here. Please note that there alternate versions are
updated by users, so there may be some time lag
between when an official release comes out and when
the alternate OS-specific release is ready.

Bugs
498762 Entertain bonus not added
504181 monte cook ranger feats
498730 Small size Armor AC is incorrect
497646 Loading files
504050 Charm Monster in Psionics Powers
503111 Prestige Class Problems
503586 Shadow Adept
503349 Can't become Sith?
497990 Problem with War Wizard
502791 Incorrect Data 2.3.9
500660 Spells not appearing for Necromancy
499833 Repost of [ #497895 ] Typos for spell...
499479 Distinguishing Domain Spells II
502150 Domains: Non-Divine caster problems
503191 War Domain with None deity not working
498554 Domain tag appears to be broken
501336 Eldritch Might Spell Lists
500741 Text Template and Sunless Citadel
493545 Wildcard skill bonuses not working
502423 PREGENDER requirement not working
502539 Bard feat "extra music" Song&silence
502533 MotP Prestige Classes
502555 shot on the run: prerequisite incorrect
501749 Help-Docs links wrong, file supplied
500920 Assigning Bane of (any) to custom weapon
496502 Repost of [#490378 ] Multiple domains
493941 Non-prof penalty in NATURALATTACKS
502161 Can't load monsters with Weapon Finesse
502018 PoolRadianceequipwondrous.lst
497910 Incorrect calculation of attack bonus
499770 Thrown dagger
501671 Docs menu item generates incorrect URL

Features
495297 Equipment VFEAT:tag
504605 Add support for a PREDEITYDOMAIN tag
501372 Let user to add a skill to Class Skills
463609 BONUS:COMBAT|AC|value|prereq
504602 Add PREDEITYALIGN tag
503671 Remove obsolete field from Spells
462757 Deity favored weapon Any
448757 Way to restrict BONUS tags
450145 Add BONUS & CHOOSE tags in deity.lst
442483 Spells Known For Divine Casters
419407 Allow ADD:Spellcaster to restrict class
456743 ADD:SPELLCASTER
504085 Improve ARMOR tokens
503642 |LANGUAGES,<BR>|
503648 New Filters to hide parts of csheet
503479 Additional damage bonus for Off-hand
502190 COUNT[SPELLSKNOWN%class.%level]
503135 Support for MultiLine DESC and BIO tags
503023 Remove obsolete field from skill.lst
502507 Secondary/Sub Region selection
498603 Swim skill weight carried penalty
502092 View Selected/Avail Feats mode different

The PCGen Development Team
 

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grmbrand

First Post
Rock On

For those of you who haven't tried PCGen yet; it is an absolutely state-of-the-art character generation tool. Not as slick looking as WotC's CharGen, but infintely more powerful and flexible. Rock on, guys.
 

Leopold

Management(tm)
Re: Rock On

grmbrand said:
For those of you who haven't tried PCGen yet; it is an absolutely state-of-the-art character generation tool. Not as slick looking as WotC's CharGen, but infintely more powerful and flexible. Rock on, guys.


thanks for the bump. we are working hard to impliment as much as we can into pcgen as quickly as we can. It's been a rough road but we are trudging onward!
 

piaw

First Post
any plans to improve the UI?

It's pretty darn unusable as it stands. I'd like to see at least a "Core Rules only" mode so I don't have to scroll through Celestials and other (N)PC options that I rarely use. Good grief!
 

piaw

First Post
any plans to improve the UI?

It's pretty darn unusable as it stands. I'd like to see at least a "Core Rules only" mode so I don't have to scroll through Celestials and other (N)PC options that I rarely use. Good grief!
 


grmbrand

First Post
Re: any plans to improve the UI?

piaw said:
It's pretty darn unusable as it stands. I'd like to see at least a "Core Rules only" mode so I don't have to scroll through Celestials and other (N)PC options that I rarely use. Good grief!

Perhaps you should spend a few minutes familiarizing yourself with this product before you form your opinions. Otherwise you would know that the option you desire exists on the first screen of the software...
 

okuth0r

First Post
1. if you look at the software it clearly lables all information you can choose as a source. If you choose everything, of course youll get a astounding amount of options. try again with just the Wotc players handbook, it will look a lot better.
2. the pcenview is something kind of new, i myself just started useing it. the one i use is for the palm os, ans is a astounding piece of software. if you need help with it or its companion for the CE os im sure thier developers would help.
3.PcGen is a ever developing piece of software that has many complaints of being not user friendly. Tell us what to change, either post on here a reccomendation of how to change it. or on the yahoo group. There are those of us who love the program and what it can do, it is a very powerfull too, and if there is anything that we can do let us know.
 


dpdx

First Post
I've pretty much removed this post - It seems I wasn't even talking about the same program as this thread. I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

That'll teach me to open my mouth...
 
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okuth0r

First Post
what do you mean calculate anything? what is it you want to see?
it does do many things, if your encumbered according to how much you carry, it penalizes the right skills, it auto calculates your bonuses, try two weapon fighting, including multiple attacks from high bonuses. It lists your skill totals with bonuses from anything (race, class, and stat), sets your armor class. what else are you looking for?
 


Skullfyre

First Post
new version of PC gen

But hey the program is not bad, besides they are and have been improving it with each version. Things can only get better.
:D
 

WizarDru

Adventurer
Leopold, what's the status on the UI upgrade? Is it assigned to anyone, or has it been given any priority other than, 'we definitely want to do it'?

I think with a clean UI, PCgen could possibly become my character creator of choice. It's unquestionably powerful, but when it fails the litmus test of saving me time over pen-and-paper or Excel-and-book, I just can't justify throwing hours into trying to learn how to make it work. I simply don't have the spare hours needed to learn to do things the PCGen way. I'm not expecting the same level of prettiness as, say, the WOTC chargen demo, but I am hoping for a level of ease-of-use equal to say, LonePaladin's Excel character spreadsheet.

I don't mean to sound as if I'm beliittling the outstanding work the PCGen team is doing. I have great respect for the effort you guys are putting forward. No other product will be able to match the flexibility PCGen offers....but right now it's trapped in a place where I can't use it, unfortunately.
 

Mynex

First Post
WizarDru said:
Leopold, what's the status on the UI upgrade? Is it assigned to anyone, or has it been given any priority other than, 'we definitely want to do it'?

It's not assigned to any one coder in particular. All the coders are taking an active interest in imprvoving the UI. Already the Feat and Domains tab have been completed, and the Equipment tab should be done for this weeks release as well.

Yes, the original UI is clunky and hard to use, it was designed by one person for his personal usage (Merton Monk), and he put it up at Source Forge to see what would happen... well a bit over a year later, you can see what's happened! There isn't a character software generator out there that supports even 1/10 of what PCGen does (and if there is, I've not heard of it yet, and some of the ones I have seen charge!).

The documentation and website are getting a facelift as well, so soon, very soon, PCGen will have a much smoother, intuitive look to it. The GUI is the big drive right now, so it shouldn't be much longer before the 1st pass (making it look cleaner) is done. The 2nd pass is to ad more functionality (such as a pop up window for placing equipment on a character!).

The documentation will be in a 3 varieties, HTML format with a spiffy little navigation system, a plain text format for printing out, and a PDF format that will look all slick and professional!

The website as well should be done soon, PackAlpha is the guy that's heading that up and promises the site to be more user friendly and easy to get around in!

And there is starting to gain momentum to add more features for the DM's tab... so there's a lot going on with PCGen to make it an overall great, FREE product.
 

Arabesu

Registered User
Bruce Cordell's revised prestige classes?

I was wondering if the newly revised prestige classes that Bruce Cordell has made available for psionic characters will be implemented anytime soon?
 

Sammael99

First Post
Mynex said:


Yes, the original UI is clunky and hard to use, it was designed by one person for his personal usage (Merton Monk), and he put it up at Source Forge to see what would happen... well a bit over a year later, you can see what's happened! There isn't a character software generator out there that supports even 1/10 of what PCGen does (and if there is, I've not heard of it yet, and some of the ones I have seen charge!).

One UI improvement I'd love to see would be auto update. The updates to PCGEN are so frequent I can't keep up since it requires deleting the old version and reinstalling the new one so often. How about an online update a la anti-virus softwares ?
 

jujutsunerd

Explorer
Sammael99 said:
One UI improvement I'd love to see would be auto update.

This has been mentioned occasionally, and as it (Java Web Start/JNLP) is a technology I want to mess around with, I'll probably get around to it sometime. Unless someone beats me to the punch, that is. :)

/Jonas
 

Mynex

First Post
Re: Bruce Cordell's revised prestige classes?

Arabesu said:
I was wondering if the newly revised prestige classes that Bruce Cordell has made available for psionic characters will be implemented anytime soon?

Well, it hasn't been typed in yet, but I am sure it will be soon! One thing to remember about PCGen, it _is_ a volunteer basis only. No one gets paid to work on this, it's all a labor of love, so if something isn't implemented code wise or in the list files yet, you just have to be patient, we _will_ get everything i there. :D
 

D'karr

Adventurer
Keep up the good work!!!

Well, I've heard many people complain about the complicated user interface. I've also heard many people complain that it is too hard to use.

Yes, it might be all those things but it is also in development. In addition it is FREE!!!

I personally had some trouble when I first started using it. It was complicated and cumbersome and slow. Well, since then many things have changed.

You guys developing this ROCK!!! And I owe you a great debt of gratitude. Your program does have its problems but you guys sure do make an effort to take care of them. The software builds come in almost on a weekly basis and with so many sourcebooks out there I'm amazed at the amount of real progress you guys have packed into this tool.

I currently use ver 2.4.0 as a Character Manager for all the PCs in my campaign. To say the least I'm very happy.

Yes, the GUI can be improved. Yes, it needs to be simplified and it would be a godsend if it would load and run faster. However, it still does things that no other Character Generator does; it expands to fit your needs and it calculates things right.

You guys are doing a wonderful job and I just wanted to thank you. I get tired of hearing people complain about the program but not giving the software a chance.

I look forward to improvements in the GUI and in a module to handle campaign specific modifiers without having to manipulate the lst files directly.
 
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