Pdfs and Print on Demand?

Would print-on-demand pdf products interest you?

  • Yes. I buy pdfs anyway, and I'd love hardcopies of my favorites.

    Votes: 30 45.5%
  • Yes. I would rarely want pdfs, but a hardcopy version would be nice.

    Votes: 23 34.8%
  • No. I'd rather print my own, or just use them on my computer.

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • No. I don't like online products. If it's not good enough for a publisher to have picked up, why w

    Votes: 5 7.6%
  • Other.

    Votes: 1 1.5%

As most of you are aware, ENWorld supports a pdf publishing company, Natural 20 Press. Its first product, Wild Spellcraft, was graciously brought into a print format by Mystic Eye Games, and can hopefully be found in your local gaming store.

A lot of pdf publishers aren't fortunate enough to get a print run, though, and have to rely on people seeing their work for sale at RPGNow.com. There are definitely many nice books on RPGNow that will sell, at best, a few hundred copies, simply because the online market is about a twentieth the size of the print market.

Also, a lot of people don't like pdfs, preferring to have books they can hold in their hands without having to waste whole lots of ink on. However, there is the option that a few publishers provide for Print-On-Demand books. Often these books are printed and bound with just the same quality as a softcover book you'd buy from a bookstore (though sometimes they're just bound by plastic rings).

Now, I have two points to make about this.

1. If you go to the home page of www.RPGNow.com, you'll see that they're asking if people would be interested in a print-on-demand service. If you're interested in that prospect, please swing by the website and send in an email. I know a lot of people aren't thrilled about pdfs, but with print-on-demand, you can get a full book, with double-sided pages, an actual cardstock cover, and proper binding. It's not quite as cheap as if there were a full print run, but it lets you get a hardcopy version. As Morrus himself stated on the Nat20 forum, the hardcopy version of Four-Color to Fantasy that he has is gorgeous.


2. Pdf products don't get much exposure, since you'll never see them on the shelf in your local bookstore. How likely do you think it is that local game stores might be able to stock a catalogue of digital gaming products that are available. It might not be terribly prominent, but it would be more publicity than we're getting online. The poll refers to the first question, and if you want to answer the second one, post below.
 
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I think that both are good ideas.

And I'm just wondering if they could be combined.

For instance, not being in the US, for me postage can be a killer. But if I could go into my FLGS, preview some PDF products that are available, and order them there as Print On Demand, that would be great.

Hopefully, by pooling together orders (with other customers and even other stores) the costs could be lowered, allowing the store to take some profit while I would get my product at a normal cost.

Duncan
 

Personaly, all I want are raw-text versions of the PDF included, so I can print it without using too much ink or paper. For in-game rules refrence, that's all I need (or want). Like what Monte Cook has done with his recent Malhavoc Press peices.
 

RangerWickett said:
As most of you are aware, ENWorld supports a pdf publishing company, Natural 20 Press. Its first product, Wild Spellcraft, was graciously brought into a print format by Mystic Eye Games, and can hopefully be found in your local gaming store.


Yep, I picked up a copy of it today. Me likey! :)
 


Destil said:
Personaly, all I want are raw-text versions of the PDF included, so I can print it without using too much ink or paper. For in-game rules refrence, that's all I need (or want). Like what Monte Cook has done with his recent Malhavoc Press peices.

We did that a year ago with Wild Spellcraft, but nobody seemed to care - so we stopped. :)
 


Print on demand, huh? I'm torn. I know a lot of people would be ticked if they bought a few books as PoD, then a company decided to print it and mass-distribute it for much cheaper, and in a book store.

Let's say the pdf is 5 bucks. PoD is 10. Shipping 4. That's almost 20 bucks for a product like Wild Spellcraft which retails for 14 dollars in the bookstore (even though I own it, I sat at the bookstore today flipping through it, and if I didn't have to buy guinea pig food, I would have just bought it...) Quintessential books run 20 for 128 pages... hm... Print books make a HUGE difference to me. While I buy the pdf books ANYway, I think of them more as a "preview copy", since I could never affordably print the book out myself and get good quality or binding.

Huh. Funny, since I spend 5 bucks on a pdf, and then end up buying the book anyway (14), I'm spending the same as if I did a print on demand...

Sorry for thinking out loud, just trying to rationalize it. Depending on the price, I'd probably do it. As long as I'd get the pdf copy too for my own records...


Chris
 

Raw Print? Why?

Destil said:
Personaly, all I want are raw-text versions of the PDF included, so I can print it without using too much ink or paper. For in-game rules refrence, that's all I need (or want). Like what Monte Cook has done with his recent Malhavoc Press peices.

Can someone please tell me what "raw-print" is?

I've been able to use Acrobat Reader to simply cut out the pictures I don't want to print from PDF downloads. As a publisher of PDF, I find it odd that customers would request this, since they can easily do it themselves.
 

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