penalty for cheating

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So he got caught cheating? Big whoop.

In our group that would be no big deal. Punishment would be inflicted by the rest of the players in the form of ridicule and relentless harassment, but we'd never kick him out.
 

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jgsugden said:
If the group can't play with him anymore I'd kick him out, but not as a punishment.

Yup. You might want to check with the group first so they don't think you're a tyrant. Me? I'd have kicked him out of the group that session and maybe even smashed his dice with a hammer... ;)
 

My first thought was ritual Disembowelment. But as hes your mate that seems a bit harsh.

Personally I would give him a long and winded lecture if he asked if he could play with you again. I would have kicked him out, right there and then. I doubt he ever would be considered a friend again as well. I really dont like people breaking my trust.
 

I discuss it with the group and come to a group decision about it. You can exile him for a week and that'll give you the chance to do this. That way you can tell him, we decided as a group......


I can tell you what would happen in my group. For a while every one would be announcing nat 1's as critical...........................................................failures. Then anytime someone added wrong or acidently used the wrong bonus it would be called pulling a (insert player's name here). We're a pretty cool lot - but crueld is fun.
 

Crothian said:
Depending on the person and what I thought of him, I'd probably just ban him.

Agreed. If he was caught "fudging" a die roll or something similar, I'd be inclined to let it go at a bit of ridiculing and having him roll in plain sight for a couple of months. But going out and getting a loaded die is rather premeditated.

Any player caught doing that in our group would be booted in a heartbeat. We could put it up to a vote, but he'd still get booted by a unanimous call.

He may be a friend, but that's not a good excuse to ignore it. I expect to be able to trust my friends. That means that they don't move my chess pieces or look at my cards when I step out of the room, and they don't use loaded dice to play games. (The above, of course excepts practical jokes and the like. I've got a sense of humor.)
 


Kick him in the junk 20 times, ban him for 20 weeks, ban his children and his children's children, for 20 generations down the line.

But before you do that, read jgsugden's advice above.
 

Coik said:
Assuming this is first offense, I'd be all for giving the player a second chance. Honestly, how many here can honestly say they've never cheated? Goddess knows I have. Ya'know how it is...you report a number to the DM that's a wee bit higher than what you actually rolled, or you purposefully roll the die over an uneven surface or near an obstruction so you can get a cocked die mulligan if it comes up with a result you don't like...

Uh-huh. I thought that might be you.
Dude, you are so not playing in my group again. It's bad enough to cheat; it's quite another matter to get online and brag about it as I'm looking for a way to forgive you.

I got your *second chance* right here, bub.
 

I agree. If he went out of his way to get a dice with 2 20s, then he definitely did it on purpose. Think back, has he ad a LOT of criticals? From now on, he rolls -only- that dice. But now, 1 is auto-crit, 20 is critical failure. But only for him.

Sure, i know just about everyone has fudged a roll...ive done it once or twice....however, if i roll a 1, i always take it.....i see it as fate.
 

Stay on target, gang. I'd just as soon you not bash other members who say they've cheated in the past.

We had a player cheat. If I was going to do it again, it would be "first time warning, second time expulsion" - and I'd tell him that no die roll he made would count unless someone else witnessed it. If he's cheating at this, he's cheating in other ways, and it's not my job to hand-hold.

Mind you, in another game we both played in, it was so bad that this was an actual snippet of conversation from a game when he wasn't there:

DM: 'Jeff' isn't here, so will someone roll his initiative for him?
Chris: I'll do it. Let's see; I rolled a 4. But it's Jeff, right?
DM: Yeah. What's your total?
Chris: 23.
(Everyone laughs.)

I love Pbartender's idea. That's the way I'd handle it.
 
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