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TiQuinn said:
From what I've heard, Jackson wasn't the one driving this decision. He wanted to keep the scene in there.

I heard it was some top excutive at New Line/ WB that told Jackson to cut it. PJ tryed to fight to keep it in there, but the guy already made up his mind. He saw an early cut of the movie and thought the scene dragged down the movie, so he ordered it cut.
 

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Hell, even in FOTR, Frodo solves the riddle to get into Moria instead of Gandalf? Why?

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You probably mean, instead of Pippin, right? Isn't it he who thinks of the solution? It's because they wanted to bring Frodo a little more to the foreground, instead of just being the ringbearer giving him something useful to do, and clearly show him as a/the main character of the series (I know, Sam may be regarded as even more important).

Actually, in the book, Gandalf figures it out himself after wrestling with it for a while. I think I read something back when the first film was released that PJ changed it to Frodo in order to build the relationship between Gandalf & Frodo. He wanted Frodo to be Gandalf's friend, not a piece of baggage to be lugged to Mt. Doom.
 

kengar said:
Actually, in the book, Gandalf figures it out himself after wrestling with it for a while. I think I read something back when the first film was released that PJ changed it to Frodo in order to build the relationship between Gandalf & Frodo. He wanted Frodo to be Gandalf's friend, not a piece of baggage to be lugged to Mt. Doom.

in the book it was Frodo who figured out the "Friend" riddle.
 

All these tears over needless changes. :rolleyes: Obviously the filmmakers would disagree, but what do they know, I'm sure we know much better.

You should at least wait until the film comes out before you complain about its changes. Complaining now, when all you've seen is 2 1/2 minute trailer, is crazy.
 

diaglo said:
in the book it was Frodo who figured out the "Friend" riddle.

Sorry, no cigar for Diaglo ;)

"With a suddeness that startled them all the wizard sprang to his feet. He was laughing! 'I have it!' he cried. 'Of course, of course! Absurdly simple, like most riddles when you see the answer.' Picking up his staff he stood before the rock and said in a clear voice: 'Mellon!'"

The Fellowship of the Ring p. 401, Ballantine paperback, authorized edition.
 


kengar said:
Sorry, no cigar for Diaglo ;)

"With a suddeness that startled them all the wizard sprang to his feet. He was laughing! 'I have it!' he cried. 'Of course, of course! Absurdly simple, like most riddles when you see the answer.' Picking up his staff he stood before the rock and said in a clear voice: 'Mellon!'"

The Fellowship of the Ring p. 401, Ballantine paperback, authorized edition.

now i'm gonna have to go look it up.

i could've swore in my unabridged version. Frodo asked Gandalf what the elven ;) word for friend was. and when Gandalf spoke it aloud the door opened.
 

aliensex said:
Well, at least we will finally have a good census of the most pathetic brand of geek/loser ever amassed. A great day for statistics! :cool:

Once a suitable amount of names has been collected specialist squads will visit each person. Force each to have a shower, wear clean clothes and get some fresh air. Then if they haven't died of shock given a brief talk on how it really doesn't matter in the end.
 

Tsyr said:
Searching for the word "diaglo" isn't hard...

Right--plus, I figured you'd be close to the more recent posts, and just looked there....

And guess what--having to look bugged the hell out of me, you smug little man...
 

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