Phb Ii

Players Handbook II?

Simple, here's how it could go down:
Races: Warforged, Changelings, Goliaths, Ilumians. Some others from the Races books and Eberron.
Classes: Well gee, you've got 8 new core classes from the Complete series and 2 from Eberron, that's 10, almost as much as PHB I. Marshall or Healer from Minis Handbook and you've got as many. Heck, throw in the DLCS Mystic and Noble and you've got more than the PHB! "Most Players Handbooks only go up to 11, ours goes up to 12!" :)
Equipment: Loot the FRCS, Arms & Equipment Guide, Complete, Environmental and Racial books, some Dragon Mag reprints too while you're at it.
Feats: Oh boy, where to begin. They could make just a book of feats with reprints if they wanted.
Spells: Complete and Eberron reprints, as well as a zillion lifeless copies of existing spells just slightly tweaked and only on the spell list of some class nobody plays anyway (like Wu-Jen).
Rules: Plenty of variant and optional rules to mine, Unearthed Arcana, Eberron and d20 Modern, and yet again the Complete, Races and Environment books.

Now, make up some obligatory new races, classes, equipment, feats ect. (go to the slush pool of stuff that got cut for space if neccesary) so you can say it's not all reprints. Change a little stuff around so you can call it "updated", slap the name "Players Handbook II" on it, and ship it out.

Cynical? yes. Implausible? no.

(Personally I'd rather see this than a 4e core book, and the idea of most of the new races/core classes/feats/spells ect in one book is vaguely appealing, and I'm sure it would sell to the occasional player who doesn't want to buy a new hardcover sourcebook every month)
 

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I don't think a PHB II would be a "best of" type book, else fewer people would probably buy it.

Also, since we have the Complete series and the Races series and Unearthed Arcana (not to mention the Planar Handbook and the Book of Exalted Deeds), there's really no gap I can see that needs to be filled by a PHB II.
 






Mm interesting idea there Crothy.

I can see people's point about a "flavored" classes book. I guess I just felt Ninja was better than Spellthief. :p :)

Swashbuckler is fine, but having seen the Unfettered, I didn't much care for this one. It felt a little...weak. (The Swashbuckler mind you.)
 

Why do I think there will be a PHB II?

Money.

From a "what would it have?" viewpoint I think it would be a mixture of reprinting/collecting existing material and new material. There's likely a large number of players that do not use the Complete books that would use a PHB II. The name would make it sound -- to those that play pretty much using only the core books -- more like a necessary addition that would be more useful than anything the Complete line offers.
 

Nifft said:
Actually, that would be really cool -- PHB II is not just a single setting, but a bunch of chapters on how to adapt various base & prestige classes, variant rules, etc. to fit a variety of settings.

One for Mythic Norse adventures, one for Mythic Greece / Rome / Egypt, one for Naoleonic era adventures, Mythic Africa, Mythic Asia, Mythic India...

(Yeah, I got lazy there and just stuck "Mythic" in front of a bunch of places... but the core idea remains cool! I swear it!)

-- N

A book like that I would by in a heartbeat. "d20 mythic earth".
 

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