PHB3 cover!

[Piratecat]

Tilenas, I would much have a full racial writeup on established D&D races than new, difficult-to-integrate races.

Luckily, your wish for original and exciting monsters should be satisfied by MM2.

 

[Hjorimir]

Michael Komarck is the man (my favorite fantasy artist right now...even over Lockwood and way, way over Reynolds). I remember when they released the mockups of the first 4e core books and sitting their wishing they'd gone with Komarck instead. Well, better late than never.

 

[Plane Sailing]

As the player of a Gith character, the sooner Gith have a full PHB write up and associated feats the better (although whether I'll survive for another year is a moot point!)

I also love monks, and I'd be happy to restart one of my old chop-socky campaigns where every class is a hybrid-monk class.

So PHB3 looks like being something I'm going to want to get (even though there are lots of reasons why I don't want to be sucked into the PHB-n thing...)

Cheers

 

[Fifth Element]

If those weren't actual mythical beasts that were normally depicted as female, and often with exposed breasts (including in previous editions), thus granting the artists the creative license, not to mention artistic significance, you'd have a point. Notice how no one's pointing out the gazongas on the 4e succubus...same thing for those guys.

So you're saying there's a mythological precedent to putting boobs on everything? Actually, I think you're right!

So it's okay to put boob on things. Otherwise, you're saying "If you just made that up, you can't put boobs on it. If some guy a thousand years ago made it up, it's okay to put boobs on it."

 

[Brown Jenkin]

I couldn't help myself because I agree with the sentiment behind the joke: you take a clerk and send him off to fight monsters.

I still think it's cool, but I'm a weirdo and think the concept of a butt-kicking librarian slaying monsters with the power of the Dewey Decimal System is really rather amazing.

But I guess I'm strange, so I'm apparently the only one who cares that 4e wizards don't adequately represent that archetype....oh well.

There is precedent for butt-kicking librarians though. Take for example.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHsqslpgRSw]YouTube - The Librarian 2 trailer[/ame]

 

[lutecius]

Look at the first illustration in the MM1. It's by Komarck and features a tiefling (alongside other PCs) staring down at a horde of monsters, from skeletons to a red dragon.

Thanks. I didn't realize it was by him. Well it's a bit dark and not as good as I expected. The tiefling has the huge horns, chin spikes and cheesy hairstyle. At least the tail isn't showing. Maybe the design is just unredeemably bad.

The power list is almost certainly a placeholder due to the ordering of the powers. PHB 1 & 2 have the power list in alphabetical order

Could be. Now that i think of it, the layout is a bit off. I'm not sure why wotc would want fans to believe the book is meh, but they've made worse moves.

 

[Klaus]

Maybe the design is just unredeemably bad.

I wouldn't say that:
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IMHO, the best artist to depict tieflings so far is Raven Mimura, in PHB1 (female tiefling eavesdropping on gnolls in the skill chapter and female tiefling with Tenser's Floating Disk in the rituals chapter).

 

[I'm A Banana]

So you're saying there's a mythological precedent to putting boobs on everything? Actually, I think you're right!

So it's okay to put boob on things. Otherwise, you're saying "If you just made that up, you can't put boobs on it. If some guy a thousand years ago made it up, it's okay to put boobs on it."

Dragonborn are not part of the ancient Greek tradition of women-monsters or the Medieval tradition of magic-women, or are in any other way overtly feminized. This is part of the reason that dragonbewbs are silly.

Back on track:

The next setting is supposed to have a far realms influence. None of the obvious candidates have a clear Far-Realms thing going on. So what is it?

I think it is Dark Sun. Dark Sun rebooted. Dark sun where far realms invasions are behind it all and there is enough wilderness remaining that Primal characters have a lot to do.

I'd be horrified if they changed DS like that.

Fortunately, I think this is more related to Eberron. Eberron already has a strong "primal vs. far realm" conflict going on within it.

I can't think of a classic setting with a strong Far Realm influence offhand, probably because the Far Realm was a late addition to 2e, so any inclusion would have to be very careful or wind up being really horrible. A little bit of that place goes a long way, usually.

A new setting could have some cool Far Realms stuff in it, potentially, but, again, it's easy to overdo it.

The Minotaur is suggestive of Dragonlance, since aside from that setting and WoW, minotaurs aren't really present as a fantasy race.

 

[lutecius]

I wouldn't say that:
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Nice. The tail is still a bit too large for my taste. But aren't female tieflings supposed to have curled horns?

IMHO, the best artist to depict tieflings so far is Raven Mimura, in PHB1 (female tiefling eavesdropping on gnolls in the skill chapter and female tiefling with Tenser's Floating Disk in the rituals chapter).

Mimura's tieflings look better than O'Connor's but they too have the fugly brow-horns (even if they're less prominent on the pic you mentioned)

What can I say, I'm that picky

 

[Klaus]

Nice. The tail is still a bit too large for my taste. But aren't female tieflings supposed to have curled horns?

Mimura's tieflings look better than O'Connor's but they too have the fugly brow-horns (even if they're less prominent on the pic you mentioned)

What can I say, I'm that picky

Curled/straight horns aren't, AFAIK, gender-specific.