pinpointing invisible opponents

kolikeos

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how do i fight an invisible opponent? can i listen to his footsteps and know in which square on the gird he is?
thanks in advance.
 

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kolikeos said:
how do i fight an invisible opponent? can i listen to his footsteps and know in which square on the gird he is?
thanks in advance.

The rules for this will be found under the Listen and Spot skills.
 


Under the Special Conditions section, Invisible:

"A Listen check that beats the DC by 20 pinpoints the invisible creature’s location."

"It's practically impossible (+20 DC) to pinpoint an invisible creature’s location with a Spot check..."
 

kolikeos said:
how do i fight an invisible opponent?
Get someone to cast the Sor/Wiz 2 spell See Invisibility, and have them tell you where he is. Or have them get lucky with Gitterdust. :D
 

if i beat the opponent's move silently check i know where he is? if i beat the opponent's hide check +20 i know where he is? or is it a dc 20 spot check? i also noticed a problem with the listen skill, it says -1 to dc for ever 10 of distance and -5 if the listener is distracted.... it should have been + no?

i am still not sure how to handle this... and there is not much help in the combat section or in the description of the spell.
 

Nail said:
Under the Special Conditions section, Invisible:

"A Listen check that beats the DC by 20 pinpoints the invisible creature’s location."

"It's practically impossible (+20 DC) to pinpoint an invisible creature’s location with a Spot check..."

oh, i see.... if i beat the normal dc, can i at least get a clue in which direction he is? and what happens if i walk into his square?
 

kolikeos said:
if i beat the opponent's move silently check i know where he is?
No.
kolikeos said:
if i beat the opponent's hide check +20 i know where he is?
Yes, you know what square he is in.
kolikeos said:
or is it a dc 20 spot check?
No. With a DC 20 Spot check, you know there is an invisbile creature nearby....and that doesn't mean you know what square he's in.
kolikeos said:
i also noticed a problem with the listen skill, it says -1 to dc for ever 10 of distance and -5 if the listener is distracted.... it should have been + no?
Nope. It's a penalty on the Listen check, not a penalty to the DC of the check.

BTW: Any chance of you using Capital Letters once in a while? Thanks.
 

kolikeos said:
oh, i see.... if i beat the normal dc, can i at least get a clue in which direction he is?
No.
kolikeos said:
and what happens if i walk into his square?
Nothing, unless you stop your movement in his square. Then you are forced to move to an adjacent square.

So, 'bout them capital letters..... :D
 


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