Pissed Druid - Need some help
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why short term?
Why all these fast responses.
I would first bury my lover en morn for the death. Then I would make an oath in a local town (NG town if posible) and make that oath in the temple. Then buy a lot of beer in a few Inns and give it all away if they wanted to hear my story.
The party will go to that town on one day, hear the story from the temple about a terible oath and some very evil wrong persons. When they get to the bar they will hear loads of stories about what they did and the people will be by then prity pissed.
From that moment on till they reach level 20 they will always look behind in fear that it will be the druid they wronged.......
And should they tell the town folk they where it, I don't think much questions will be asked.... Also let them find some tracks through your campaign, let lightning strike the camp sometimes, etc. Just bad luck.......
Laiyna
Why all these fast responses.
I would first bury my lover en morn for the death. Then I would make an oath in a local town (NG town if posible) and make that oath in the temple. Then buy a lot of beer in a few Inns and give it all away if they wanted to hear my story.
The party will go to that town on one day, hear the story from the temple about a terible oath and some very evil wrong persons. When they get to the bar they will hear loads of stories about what they did and the people will be by then prity pissed.
From that moment on till they reach level 20 they will always look behind in fear that it will be the druid they wronged.......
And should they tell the town folk they where it, I don't think much questions will be asked.... Also let them find some tracks through your campaign, let lightning strike the camp sometimes, etc. Just bad luck.......
Laiyna
Airwolf
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Let's see here:
If I was playing and encountered a tiger attacking a man that claimed an evil druid had caused the tiger to attack, I would help the man too.
Then if the 'evil' druid showed up and never bothered to mention what was going on and just tried to entangle my party I would attack the druid and the tiger too.
The druid should take a look in the mirror and realize who is responsible for the death of his lover.
If the druid can't see the truth then he should take some of the suggestions offered here and go after the party.
One thing is for sure; if this encounter had occurred with the party I game with, the druid wouldn't be around to seek revenge.
Just my two cents worth.
If I was playing and encountered a tiger attacking a man that claimed an evil druid had caused the tiger to attack, I would help the man too.
Then if the 'evil' druid showed up and never bothered to mention what was going on and just tried to entangle my party I would attack the druid and the tiger too.
The druid should take a look in the mirror and realize who is responsible for the death of his lover.
If the druid can't see the truth then he should take some of the suggestions offered here and go after the party.
One thing is for sure; if this encounter had occurred with the party I game with, the druid wouldn't be around to seek revenge.
Just my two cents worth.
I think that are words from somebody who can look rational at a situation. I think you should look at the situation with some feelings. You only got a few facts:
1) A close friend is killed (so somebody is not compleetly "sane", eg the druid)
2) A group of players is gulible enough to believe everybody they meet. ( "Hey did that person who eats babies did steel my magic item, could you retrieve it?" )
3) The group did attack a companion of the druid, and as clearly could be seen did the druid care for her companion. (Hint ! Hint ! doh!)
4) Killing a defensless creature is evil.
So you got the next things to consider:
a) Was the druid not friendly and good to just "slow" the group down?
b) Should the group not have stepped down when they saw it was more then an animal attacking a person?
In this case I would say, revange......
1) A close friend is killed (so somebody is not compleetly "sane", eg the druid)
2) A group of players is gulible enough to believe everybody they meet. ( "Hey did that person who eats babies did steel my magic item, could you retrieve it?" )
3) The group did attack a companion of the druid, and as clearly could be seen did the druid care for her companion. (Hint ! Hint ! doh!)
4) Killing a defensless creature is evil.
So you got the next things to consider:
a) Was the druid not friendly and good to just "slow" the group down?
b) Should the group not have stepped down when they saw it was more then an animal attacking a person?
In this case I would say, revange......
Originally posted by laiyna
I think that are words from somebody who can look rational at a situation. I think you should look at the situation with some feelings. You only got a few facts:
2) A group of players is gulible enough to believe everybody they meet. ( "Hey did that person who eats babies did steel my magic item, could you retrieve it?" )
The players are gullible enough to believe that an animal (a large, dangerous predator at that) attacking a lone stranger should be stopped, killed even. This isn't gullible or unusual thinking. Most people would try to kill a wolf or tiger if they saw it attacking a stranger--or run for help if they thought it beyond their abilities.
3) The group did attack a companion of the druid, and as clearly could be seen did the druid care for her companion. (Hint ! Hint ! doh!)
4) Killing a defensless creature is evil.
I agree that #3 was a clue that something more than was apparent might be happening. But I still think most of the blame for the situation lies on the druid and the wizard, not the party. Maybe (in time) the druid may come to that realization.
And I must disagree with #4. People kill defenseless animals all the time and most people would not consider that evil (otherwise there would be a lot more vegetarians). And, killing an animal that attacks humans is not only "not evil" it is often good. It is an act that protects the community and innocents. They aren't killing bandits who have surrendered, they are killing a tiger who attacked a man.
So you got the next things to consider:
a) Was the druid not friendly and good to just "slow" the group down?
b) Should the group not have stepped down when they saw it was more then an animal attacking a person?
Entangle is a set-up for damaging attacks. A party _might_ try to parlay with the druid but it is also reasonable that the druid is about to Flame Strike them, so they hit him as hard and as fast as possible.
I think an interesting twist could be to have the druid become a retainer/employee (in disguise) and travel with the party, gathering info on their weaknesses, waiting for a time to strike. Depending on the party's behaviour he could
1) Try to kill them all later when they are in dire peril and tell them why--very James Bond deathtrap style.
2) Extract vengeance on some of them but if he feels some empathy for some of the party he will spare them; if they were nice or compassionate while he travelled with them, he'll likely spare them the worst of it.
3) if they seem like really decent folk, he may call of the whole vengeance thing and instead focus on the wizard or other things. This would be after he's gone through the worst of his grieving.
--vox
I think that are words from somebody who can look rational at a situation. I think you should look at the situation with some feelings. You only got a few facts:
2) A group of players is gulible enough to believe everybody they meet. ( "Hey did that person who eats babies did steel my magic item, could you retrieve it?" )
The players are gullible enough to believe that an animal (a large, dangerous predator at that) attacking a lone stranger should be stopped, killed even. This isn't gullible or unusual thinking. Most people would try to kill a wolf or tiger if they saw it attacking a stranger--or run for help if they thought it beyond their abilities.
3) The group did attack a companion of the druid, and as clearly could be seen did the druid care for her companion. (Hint ! Hint ! doh!)
4) Killing a defensless creature is evil.
I agree that #3 was a clue that something more than was apparent might be happening. But I still think most of the blame for the situation lies on the druid and the wizard, not the party. Maybe (in time) the druid may come to that realization.
And I must disagree with #4. People kill defenseless animals all the time and most people would not consider that evil (otherwise there would be a lot more vegetarians). And, killing an animal that attacks humans is not only "not evil" it is often good. It is an act that protects the community and innocents. They aren't killing bandits who have surrendered, they are killing a tiger who attacked a man.
So you got the next things to consider:
a) Was the druid not friendly and good to just "slow" the group down?
b) Should the group not have stepped down when they saw it was more then an animal attacking a person?
Entangle is a set-up for damaging attacks. A party _might_ try to parlay with the druid but it is also reasonable that the druid is about to Flame Strike them, so they hit him as hard and as fast as possible.
I think an interesting twist could be to have the druid become a retainer/employee (in disguise) and travel with the party, gathering info on their weaknesses, waiting for a time to strike. Depending on the party's behaviour he could
1) Try to kill them all later when they are in dire peril and tell them why--very James Bond deathtrap style.
2) Extract vengeance on some of them but if he feels some empathy for some of the party he will spare them; if they were nice or compassionate while he travelled with them, he'll likely spare them the worst of it.
3) if they seem like really decent folk, he may call of the whole vengeance thing and instead focus on the wizard or other things. This would be after he's gone through the worst of his grieving.
--vox
Stormprince
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Another possible option, and one that I'm particularly fond of using with druids, is to have the druid NPC approach the Fey for help. By pissing off a druid, who naturally has the ability to converse with Fey anyway (Sylvan), they may have entangled themselves in a much larger mess then they could have ever expected.
Imagine the druid getting a group of dryads to help him pay back the ones who stole his lover away... or a single nymph unleashing her own charms to show the PCs just how painful love and loss can be. If you use the fairy tales with Oberon and Titania, then the druid could even (theoretically) approach the Fairy King and Queen to curse the PCs until they either perform an act of contrition, or fulfill some other form of compensation...
Druids have far more friends readily available than just animals
Christopher
Imagine the druid getting a group of dryads to help him pay back the ones who stole his lover away... or a single nymph unleashing her own charms to show the PCs just how painful love and loss can be. If you use the fairy tales with Oberon and Titania, then the druid could even (theoretically) approach the Fairy King and Queen to curse the PCs until they either perform an act of contrition, or fulfill some other form of compensation...
Druids have far more friends readily available than just animals
Christopher
Stormprince
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Benben said:
If there's one thing that I've learned about D&D players, it's that 9/10ths of them underestimate the power of the Fey.
They see a pixie or a sprite and they point and laugh... they don't realize that the Fey are legion... and most of them are invisible and nearly untouchable
There's a good reason my players use to nick me the "faerieking"... 
Christopher
Wolfspirit
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Well, for one thing I would discourage the usage of animal companions in the revenge. Unless they managed to take out most of the party in surprise, there'd probably be lots of dead animal chunks spread about.
On the other hand, a ticked off druid could make life REALLY hard for the party whenever they are outside of the city. A few uses of guerrila tactics can make a party very paranoid
On the other hand, a ticked off druid could make life REALLY hard for the party whenever they are outside of the city. A few uses of guerrila tactics can make a party very paranoid
madriel
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One thing that people have overlooked - the fighter had other people who loved him too. The party met the druid, but they haven't met the fighter's parents or siblings or friends. And who knows what his family and friends did for a living. Maybe they were common villagers or maybe there's some powerful adventurers in the family tree.
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