Plagiarism vs. Inspiration

[Dannyalcatraz]

Not quite yet, no. But I think the demand for ethical AI will be strong depending on if that can be achieved and if people do not first see their job being taken by it.

I don’t think so, considering:

1) many AI developing companies are fighting against compensating copyright holders for AI scraping because it “would bankrupt them”, and some have already paid big settlements, I don’t think so (like Anthropic’s $1.5B agreement).

2) many of the highest profile people against compensation of copyright holders are wealthy, powerful people who have already (often repeatedly) demonstrated behaviors that would charitably be called amoral, egocentric and anti-social, especially those subscribing to the “move fast; break stuff” ethos.

 

[Thomas Shey]

I think when you go into a discussion of people adapting game mechanics to other uses and start using "plagiarism" you've made a categorical error right out the gate, and it'll lead to nothing but more of the same.

 

[1QD]

It takes very little time to upload a game onto Drivethrurpg or Lulu and post it for sale. Publishing has never been easier.

What you are talking about is marketing. And to market your game and build community you are going to need to share mechanics amd take feedback.

If it matters I have published my own RPG. I did so because I homebrewed the rules

It seems to me by your response that we have very different end goals. I have a fully complete system, hardcover book, nearly 600 pages. I would like to do a kickstarter. As I am new to both forums and marketing I am taking small steps. As I have mentioned I am close to sharing mechanics but I need to finish a few satellite tasks first.

 

[1QD]

I think when you go into a discussion of people adapting game mechanics to other uses and start using "plagiarism" you've made a categorical error right out the gate, and it'll lead to nothing but more of the same.

You may be correct. I am new to forums and this particular scene. The sharing of mechanics is a totally new and somewhat strange practice to me. Though after my research it seems to be normalized. I do plan on releasing info in the near future.

 

[1QD]

I don’t think so, considering:

1) many AI developing companies are fighting against compensating copyright holders for AI scraping because it “would bankrupt them”, and some have already paid big settlements, I don’t think so (like Anthropic’s $1.5B agreement).

2) many of the highest profile people against compensation of copyright holders are wealthy, powerful people who have already (often repeatedly) demonstrated behaviors that would charitably be called amoral, egocentric and anti-social, especially those subscribing to the “move fast; break stuff” ethos.

I agree that now that is the case. So many people are against it though, I am not so sure they can maintain profits with soo many people against the service. Though entertainment and research may not be the only use for ai and it will get implemented regardless

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I agree that now that is the case. So many people are against it though, I am not so sure they can maintain profits with soo many people against the service. Though entertainment and research may not be the only use for ai and it will get implemented regardless

At this point in time, there’s no profits to maintain: most AI is not profitable, and are running billions in the red. And they’re still throwing money & resources at it in ways that are disruptive of other markets for goods (like certain computer components), services (like water & electric utilities), and places & things of cultural importance (ancestral lands, Neolithic art and wild horse herds in Nevada).

Why?

Enough of those powers behind the push for AI have goals that are not necessarily benign or beneficial to any but a few, and believe they have sufficient financial resources to weather current levels of negative press in order to achieve them.

I’m living in Texas, a state infamously so high on its own supply that its power grid is mostly isolated from the rest of the USA. The result of that independence is a terribly unstable power grid, prone to brownouts & blackouts when temps get too high or too low.

We also have a large number of data centers, and state leadership has been courting more with sweetheart deals on land, taxes and other services. One juicy benefit they get is that Texas pays those centers to minimize or cease operations when power demands are at their highest. Tails they win, heads we lose.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

Plagiarism as crime is when you try to earn money. If you use AI for some homebrew idea, for example a PC specie inspired some famous IP you can publish it as amateur art or fan-fiction.

When it is showed in the right way it is not plagiarism but homage.

It may be plagiarism when you don't admit the possible external source of inspiration.