Please forgive my ignorance....

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Uh, no. See right above your post?

Uncanny Dodge keeps you from losing your Dex bonus when attacked by Invisible opponents.

 

[Lasher Dragon]

Wow, is that changed from 3E, or has everyone I know somehow turned a "blind eye" to that invisibility clause? (pun intended)

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Not that I'm aware of, LD.

Uncanny Dodge: At 3rd level and above, she retains her Dexterity bonus to AC (if any) if caught flat-footed or struck by an invisible attacker.

 

[Lasher Dragon]

LOL I can't believe all these years I've been gaming with all my buddies (about half the people I game with love to be rules lawyers, myself included) and NONE of us ever noticed that invisibility clause. That does seem highly powerful for a 2nd level "feat"... well, SA or whatever it is. So, let's have this scenario - rogue just got uncanny dodge. He sneaks into a room, thinking himself quite clever. Unfortunately, there is an invisible assassin in here and the rogue has no clue. So, the assassin lines up his death/sneak attack... oops didn't work, because the rogue has uncanny dodge, and doesn't lose his dex to AC for invisible people OR those faster off the initiative. Is that correct?

 

[Hopeless Prodigy]

Thanks Pirate Cat.

I had noticed the invisibility 'clause' when I went about asking this question here (and you'll notice in my original post that I mention invisibility). This is why I posted here hoping for confirmation from the community. Do you feel my concern now Lasher Dragon? Alarming isn't it?

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Pretty much. Looks pretty uncanny, don't you think?

 

[Hopeless Prodigy]

No doubt. It just seemed a bit much for such a low level ability. It would seem more appropriate for a 6-8th level ability.

 

[Lasher Dragon]

I agree, Hopeless Prodigy, and one of the DMs I play with has howled over never being able to surprise those with Uncanny Dodge for years now LOL

AND He didn't have a clue about the inviso clause, so now he's REALLY HOWLING!!
LMAO

 

[Hopeless Prodigy]

Now there's all the more reason to take that 2nd level in Barbarian.

 

[Lasher Dragon]

Yeah, I like to play all types of characters, but everytime I have played a fighter, I have gone for 2 levels of barbarian first, then the rest fighter.

My best fighter is a half-ogre, 2 barbarian/11 fighter, +1 spiked mithral fullplate w/med. fortification, a +1 spiked animated large shield, and usually wields a magic fullblade... cannot remember what I had on it though. I think it was +1 keen, and I was thinking of putting brilliant energy or perhaps that ability that lets you pick whether it's flaming, shocking, etc. once per round - think it's from A&E.