Please help! Hitting an underwater target with magic missile

[FEADIN]

But are you really seeing them? Can you shoot magic missiles unerringly at someone because you see their reflection in a mirror?

Yes, but only if you have a line of effect...

 

[shilsen]

But are you really seeing them?

For purposes of a magic missile, yes. Since magic missile can unerringly hit someone who is benefiting from a displacement spell, it sure as hell can hit someone whose position is displaced by water.

Remember, physics is a house rule Especially when it comes to magic.

 

[Shadeydm]

Would you say then that a caster could hit a submerged Flotsam Ooze with a magic missle spell?

 

[shilsen]

Would you say then that a caster could hit a submerged Flotsam Ooze with a magic missle spell?

If you could see it, yes.

 

[kigmatzomat]

Magic missle also says it cannot be used on targets with either total cover or total concealment. A wall of glass is a complete impediment to magic missle, as is crystal clear waters or fog.

 

[green slime]

Magic missle also says it cannot be used on targets with either total cover or total concealment. A wall of glass is a complete impediment to magic missle, as is crystal clear waters or fog.

Exactly.

 

[Infiniti2000]

Magic missle also says it cannot be used on targets with either total cover or total concealment. A wall of glass is a complete impediment to magic missle, as is crystal clear waters or fog.

Water does not provide cover vs. magic missile because it is neither a Fire effect nor does it require an attack roll, as I noted above. Crystal clear water also does not provide total concealment.

 

[Mistwell]

Magic missle also says it cannot be used on targets with either total cover or total concealment. A wall of glass is a complete impediment to magic missle, as is crystal clear waters or fog.

Um, how is clear water either total cover or total concealment?

 

[kigmatzomat]

Um, how is clear water either total cover or total concealment?

As posted above:

Well, D&D does say that:
"A completely submerged creature has total cover against opponents on land"

 

[Zurai]

Which is an incomplete quote. It only has total cover for fire spells and attacks requiring attack rolls. Magic missile is neither a fire spell nor an attack requiring an attack roll.