[Poll]Will you buy and use AV's BoEF?

[Gez]

I have a serious question. Why doesn't Nymphology, Naughty & Dice, or the GUCK get the same kind of moral outrage or giggling jokes applied to them as the Book of Erotic Fantasy?

They don't come bundled with the same amount of hype and mediatization.

The GUCK is a collective effort, so everyone can see what it is precisely. And it's free.

Nymphology is a giggling immature joke already, so much that when you know the product, you can't come up with more (c'm'on, it's a book with a "colossal gay dino" in it).

I've never heard of the other, naughty & dice.

 

[Trickstergod]

Is it elf porn?

After a fashion, yes, though anyone who takes a comment like that too seriously needs to lighten up.

Is Wizards of the Coast being perhaps a bit too restrictive?

In my opinion, again, yes. It hardly seemed a necessity.

Are Valterra's morals in question for trying to slip the project in before the restrictions took place?

If he'd intended on doing the book before they were brought up, I'll go so far as to say no then, at least on that one matter. But, there you have that.

Is it going just a bit too far to buy the book out of spite?

I'd say so, yes.

Is this discussion just about as ridiculous as the Book of Erotic Fiction?

Oh, I certainly do think so.

All in all, I find much of this just silly, or pointless, or both.

Do I intend on buying the Book of Erotic Fiction?

Nope, can't say that I do. Not because I agree or disagree with the morals on it, or find the contents arousing or offensive. Just because I think, as a role-playing game book, it looks just this side of useless. While elf booty does indeed got soul, shelling out cash for a rules system on sex seems to be a dumb thing to do. I suppose I'll glance through the book when it actually comes out, but I really don't see much need for it. Even if sex is something dealt with in a game, it seems better done through role-playing and consensual agreement (I for one don't believe in screwing a character over with impregnation or fatherhood, for one, unless the player actually would want to play that sort of thing out) than die rolls. Most of the time, "fade to black" seems ample enough of a rule for intimate scenes. Eh. I could go further in depth into this, but I don't see the point. Off I go before I get too swept up into all this silliness...

 

[hunter1828]

Probably 'cuz I have never heard of any of those?

NYMPHOLOGY

NAUGHTY & DICE

GUIDE TO UNLAWFUL CARNAL KNOWLEDGE
GUCK DEVELOPMENT FORUM

hunter1828

 

[Creamsteak]

No Way! Seems like a really boring book. Myeh!

 

[hunter1828]

They don't come bundled with the same amount of hype and mediatization.

See, I don't really buy that. Outside of AV's admitedly horribly written initial press release which gained 95% of the early attention, Valar has had no more hype and mediazation than many other 3rd party product producers. Granted, many supporters of the BoEF (myself & ArthurQ, amongst others) have been vocal, however most of our past vocalizations have been less about hype and more about defense.

The GUCK is a collective effort, so everyone can see what it is precisely. And it's free.

So if it's a free product rather than a product designed to make money that makes a difference? That's ridiculous. That doesn't in anyway change the content of either product. And the GUCK has the same type of content as the BoEF, from rules for the sex act (GUCK's is far, far more detailed than the BoEF's is) to PrCs (heck, the GUCK has a "Tentacle Master", which I'm pretty sure the BoEF doesn't have).

Nymphology is a giggling immature joke already, so much that when you know the product, you can't come up with more (c'm'on, it's a book with a "colossal gay dino" in it).

Granted, Nymphology is highly immature in the writing style, but as with the GUCK, that doesn't change the actual content of the product.

I've never heard of the other, naughty & dice.

From Sabledrake Enterprises, written by Christine Morgan and Tim Morgan, released this past week. Deals with the subject of sex in FRPGs in a serious manner, much as the BoEF does. It includes the same type of material as the BoEF and the GUCK.

hunter1828

 

[DMScott]

I can't ever remember a time when we were dealing with a romantic/sexual subplot and somebody said "you know, we really need more rules for this. And maybe a prestige class!", so I don't see much use for the BOEF in my game. If there's a market for it, then great, more power to 'em, but I'm not part of that market.

 

[fusangite]

ByronD says,

Oh, I agree with you 100%.

I was just using Arthur's term.

I may question the market savvyness of how WotC went about this change, but I totally support their intent as well their right to go about it, regardless of whether ANYONE agrees with them or not.

Sorry if I gave you the idea that I was actually calling them controlling.

My error. Apologies.

It's amazing how the 20%/10%/70% balance has remained so constant throughout the poll.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

If the reviews on Enworld are decent, and if the price is right (aka not cover price) while I’m in a middle of a light month I might drop it in there to get more product for my shipping cost... I have no real local store so everything I get comes from FRP Games…

I wouldn’t have gotten it a week ago, but one of the spells that got debated in one of the forms a week ago seemed cool enough, and it also helped me realize that their might be other items of interest in their.

 

[2d6]

nope, no elf porn on my shelf.

 

[mmu1]

I have no interest in role-playing this sort of stuff, neither does anyone I'd want to play with, and I don't think I was ever childlish enough to think supporting this sort of garbage counts as striking some kind of blow against oppression and censorship, so I guess I won't be buying it...