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PotC: At World's End (reactions, spoilers!)

There was one thing bothering me about the Will/Elizabeth ending..

Spolier (even though this deals with something that was already mentioned)...
Assuming that the child is Will's and that Will is now "undead," what does that make the child? Would it be human, or some kind of ghoul/ghast? And when the child dies, will that start a Zombie plague?
 
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Relique du Madde said:
There was one thing bothering me about the Will/Elizabeth ending..

Will isn't undead, he's immortal.

He doesn't turn all fishy and creepy unless he eschews The Duty, like Jones did after the first 10 years.

-Hyp.
 

Hypersmurf said:
Will isn't undead, he's immortal.

He doesn't turn all fishy and creepy unless he eschews The Duty, like Jones did after the first 10 years.

-Hyp.

Unfortunately he did "die" and he could "die" if his heart is pierced (which means he's not truly immortal).

I think I was thinking of the wrong term since like you mentioned, he's not fishy (cursed).. and being undead implies some sort of curse. So maybe, Will is "deathless" and he *MIGHT* have a divine rank of 0 (since he fills a role which is typically assigned to a god/demi-god).
 
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Relique du Madde said:
Unfortunately he did "die"...

When? He was stabbed, but he stabbed Jones' heart before dying. I didn't see Will die; I saw Will saved from dying by succeeding Jones.

... and he could "die" if his heart is pierced (which means he's not truly immortal).

Immortal in the sense of not dying of old age/natural causes. Would you consider Odin, Thor, Balder, Horus, and the like immortal?

-Hyp.
 

Hypersmurf said:
When? He was stabbed, but he stabbed Jones' heart before dying. I didn't see Will die; I saw Will saved from dying by succeeding Jones.
-Hyp.

In that case I sure hope he wasn't alive when 'ol Bootstrap removed his heart with that knife.

I think the stabbing of the heart is simply done to remove the old Captain of the Flying Dutchman and is also a kind of declaration of intent. The actual becoming of captain isn't solidified until your heart is removed and placed in the chest.

That's just my interpretation of what I saw of course.
 

Oddly it seems to have been removed since I saw it, but the Wikipedia synopsis of the movie had this little tidbit at the end. The "after the credits" scene has more to it then is immediately obvious (*SPOILER*):

"After the credits, in a scene captioned "Ten Years Later," a young boy nine years and three months of age is seen singing "A Pirates Life for Me" as Elizabeth walks behind him. It is implied that this is the child of Will and Elizabeth. The sun sets followed by a green flash and Will, on the mast of The Dutchman, sails towards the shore. According to the film's writers, the curse of The Dutchman is broken if, after the ten years, the captain's lover remains faithful. The final post-credit scene suggests that Will can now return to land, as Elizabeth has remained faithful. The green flash, which symbolises a soul returning from the dead, supports this theory. Apparently, a scene of dialogue between Tia Dalma/Calypso and Davy Jones, which explained this, was cut from the film, leading to confusion about the ending."

Hopefully the DVD will have all this explained when they include said cut scene.
 

I was left wondering why Elizabeth didn't just sign up on board the Dutchman. I mean, she wouldn't be all fishy, and she's obviously comfortable around sailors now...
 

John Q. Mayhem said:
I was left wondering why Elizabeth didn't just sign up on board the Dutchman. I mean, she wouldn't be all fishy, and she's obviously comfortable around sailors now...

I expected Elizabeth to commit suicide, so Will could do his Davey Jones impersonation.

"Do ye fear death?"
 

Aegir said:
I expected Elizabeth to commit suicide, so Will could do his Davey Jones impersonation.

"Do ye fear death?"


But if she was already dead then it wouldn't work. As evidenced by
Norrington's death
. She'd have to just sign up.
 


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