Practiced Spellcaster

Mekabar said:
Ok thanks. I suppose the requirement "caster level 1" was simply forgotten, since it doesn't make sense to be a practiced spellcaster if you can't cast spells at all.
Nor does it "make sense" to have Combat Expertise if you have no BAB to distribute. (I.e., before you have BAB +1.) ;)

But since you can take these feats anyway, you can at least use them as prerequisites, which does make sense, mechanically speaking.
 

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And you can take Spellcasting Prodigy even if you're a fighter.

Even better, you can take Spellcasting Prodigy: Cleric and start as a Sorcerer or something...

Funny also, you can take Skill Focus for a trained-only skill in which you do not have any rank...
 

Gez said:
And you can take Spellcasting Prodigy even if you're a fighter.

Even better, you can take Spellcasting Prodigy: Cleric and start as a Sorcerer or something...

Funny also, you can take Skill Focus for a trained-only skill in which you do not have any rank...
Which is no logical error by itself. A character may have a natural talent for a spellcasting class or skill, but does never find out because of lack of opportunity or interest.

The term "practiced spellcaster" however does clearly indicate that a character has aquired the feat by training, which is hardly possible without a spellcasting ability.
 

In any case, you shouldn't involve flavor text in rules interpretations.

Regarding the topic at hand, the feat would work the same if it was called "Dwarf Blaster" instead of "Practised Spellcaster."
 

Gez said:
And you can take Spellcasting Prodigy even if you're a fighter.

Though there might be an issue with Practised Spellcaster - it's specifically for one spellcasting class 'that you have'.

So you can't take Practised Spellcaster (Cleric), unless you actually have a level in Cleric.

-Hyp.
 

Hypersmurf said:
Though there might be an issue with Practised Spellcaster - it's specifically for one spellcasting class 'that you have'.

So you can't take Practised Spellcaster (Cleric), unless you actually have a level in Cleric.

-Hyp.
Darkness said:
In any case, you shouldn't involve flavor text in rules interpretations.
Hypersmurf,
Maybe the writers just assumed that a character taking the feat would already have a spellcasting class. As it stands, the prerequisites don't include needing to have levels in a spellcasting class. (Wait, has the feat been errata'ed or FAQ'ed?)
 

I don't believe it is listed as one of the prerequisites, but if the benefit states that it raises a spellcasting class that you have, then a fighter could qualify for it, but he would have to take Practiced Spellcaster (nothing) and not Practiced Spellcaster (Cleric).
 

Speaking of the feat... how would it affect a multi-class Warlock? The caster level is a given for purposes of helping against SR and all, and for potentially raising the damage cap on certain spells (like a Fighter 4/Wizard 6 casting a 10d6 fireball through the Practiced Spellcaster feat, for example), but not bestow any invocations that a warlock would otherwise receive if they remained single-classed.

Would it affect a Warlock's eldritch blast and increase the damage, though? I would think it could, given that with regards to PrCs, anytime a warlock gained a new level in spellcasting from the PrC that their eldritch blast damage scales up as well as the number of invocations the warlock would know, since the warlock levels and spellcasting levels stack for those purposes. But since there's conveniently no example for Practiced Spellcaster in regards to warlocks in CA, I figured I should ask to see what others thought.
 

saucercrab said:
As it stands, the prerequisites don't include needing to have levels in a spellcasting class.

Oh, you can certainly take the feat Practised Spellcaster. But the bonus applies to one spellcasting class that you have.

If you don't have any spellcasting classes, the bonus is useless, and cannot be applied.

Just like a Formian Queen taking Lightning Reflexes. She gets a +2 bonus to a save she doesn't have.

-Hyp.
 

Lamoni said:
I don't believe it is listed as one of the prerequisites, but if the benefit states that it raises a spellcasting class that you have, then a fighter could qualify for it, but he would have to take Practiced Spellcaster (nothing) and not Practiced Spellcaster (Cleric).

Zigackly.

-Hyp.
 

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