preparing spells

[prodawg]

Sorc can cast spells on the fly but remember that if a sorc is using metamagic feats, 1 action spells will take 1 full round to cast.

 

[Vaxalon]

No, they're a full round action, that's different.

 

[Henrix]

Marginally different.
A spell taking a full rouind action does not come inte effect until the start of the mage's next round.

 

[Shard O'Glase]

Marginally different.
A spell taking a full rouind action does not come inte effect until the start of the mage's next round.

Ah no, a spell taking 1 full round doesn't come into effect until right before the mages next round. A full round action spell takes effect imediately, the only difference between it and a standard spell is you can't move(except 5' step), and you couldn't cast one as part of your hasted partial action.

 

[Zhure]

Shard O'Glase is 100% correct.

As an addendum, clerics can cast metamagic inflict/cure (based on deity/alignment as to which it is) on the fly, too. If they metamagic the cure/inflict, it takes a full-round action, just like a metamagiced Bard's or Sorcerer's spell.

Greg

 

[Henrix]

That's interesting.

I am afraid that the only thng I can find regarding this is in PHB, p.148, "A spell that takes 1 full round to cast is a full round action. It comes into effect just before the beginning of your turn...", which implies that there is no such distinction.

And no, nothing in the FAQ or errata, either, as far as I can see.

 

[IceBear]

You'll have to take my word on this that they are different. Maybe in Tome & Blood? Anyway, it has been clarified by WotC somewhere that a sorcerer spontaneously casting a metamagic spell has the spell come into effect immediately, but since it is a Full Round Action (not a full round spell), the sorcerer can only take a 5ft step before or after the spell is cast.

IceBear

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

That's interesting.

I am afraid that the only thng I can find regarding this is in PHB, p.148, "A spell that takes 1 full round to cast is a full round action. It comes into effect just before the beginning of your turn...", which implies that there is no such distinction.

And no, nothing in the FAQ or errata, either, as far as I can see.

all fish live in water... but not everything that lives in water is a fish...

 

[Henrix]

Don't think I've checked that out in T&B.

*Checks*

Weell, in T&B, on p. 81, there's a discussion on sorcerors and casting time when using metamagic feats, which says exactly what I've said - it's a full round action and the spell takes effect at the beginning of the caster's next turn.

 

[IceBear]

Are you sure. I remember many a heated debate on this subject when T&B first came out and all the debates ended with - a sorcerer casting a metamagical spell would be a full round action and not a full round spell. Honest, I'm not BSing you or lying for the sake of lying - I remember the discussions last summer.

Maybe we need Caliban or someone to address this thread. Perhaps there was another change that I missed?

[Edit]

I must be missing something. Hmmmm....was the argument about whether or not the spell was a Full Round Action or a Full Round Spell? If that's what the argument was, then that's not applicable to what you're saying. The difference between a FRA and a FRS is that with the FRA you can't be disrupted after your initiative count. Perhaps the spell doesn't actually appear until your next initiative count, but you've actually finished casting it in the current initiative count.

Let me go back and read the posts in this thread and see where I went off the tracks.

IceBear