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If your friend finds the book "insulting" to elves, she will probably find other minor issues to be inapropriate or not necessarily true. The last thing you want to do is to be tested on the validity of a fantasy setting. Ask her if the elves issue was settled would she then read the rules. If you keep getting new objections she may not truely want to play, and she may, like you, not want to disrupt the gathering. You dont have to kick her out, but you do have to come to an agreement to play or not play. You wont lose your friendship by being honest with each other. If your other friend leaves because she does, you didnt have an independent player anyway. You dont want players forced to play your game - it will be no fun that way - BTW your little sister wont make a good player if shes truely not interested either. Search for people that really want to play and they will go out of their way to make it easier for you to DM.
Evil Josef
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Sounds like a job for the ECLU!
Mark
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You need to be blunt. Explain to this person that elves aren't real. Tell them that in some games people portray these mythical beings in one way, and in other games they are portrayed quite differently. Ask them if they can put aside their own perception and play in a game where they are portrayed in this particular way. If not, it will always be a problem unless you wish to play a different game or change this game drastically enough to appease this player. The second way is much more work for you than the first. It's a tough call. 
Quickbeam
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No offense intended, but on its face, this is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. Please explain what in tarnation is insulting about the portrayal of elves in the 3E PHB as your friend sees it.
Until then, you can:
1) go with the boosted stats/ECL suggestion.
2) eliminate the offensive material relating to elves as she views things, and leave the rest in tact.
3) remove elves from your campaign, much to the detriment of everyone else in the group...including yourself.
4) offer elves as presented in other editions/games.
5) tell your friend to get a grip.
Until then, you can:
1) go with the boosted stats/ECL suggestion.
2) eliminate the offensive material relating to elves as she views things, and leave the rest in tact.
3) remove elves from your campaign, much to the detriment of everyone else in the group...including yourself.
4) offer elves as presented in other editions/games.
5) tell your friend to get a grip.
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King_Stannis
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whatever i was going to say about the lunacy of this, well, forrester said it better (above).
"insulting to elves"(?)....that'd be a one way ticket out of my group - forever. if one of my players ever pulled that, i think i'd order the rest of the group to beat them into a bloody pulp with the offending handbook.
good lord.
"insulting to elves"(?)....that'd be a one way ticket out of my group - forever. if one of my players ever pulled that, i think i'd order the rest of the group to beat them into a bloody pulp with the offending handbook.
good lord.
Ridiculous. Does she not accept Christmas gifts based on the legend of worker elves under Santa's whip? Isn't that insulting to elves?
This reminds me a LITTLE TOO MUCH of Gordo Sheckberry from Knights of the Dinner Table when introduced to Weird Pete's "Fairy Meat" game. He whined and blubbered about how "the fey folk just aren't like this!", blah blah.
SLAP!
Want me to have a word with the starry-eyed dreamster?
This reminds me a LITTLE TOO MUCH of Gordo Sheckberry from Knights of the Dinner Table when introduced to Weird Pete's "Fairy Meat" game. He whined and blubbered about how "the fey folk just aren't like this!", blah blah.
SLAP!
Want me to have a word with the starry-eyed dreamster?
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Wolfspider
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*chuckles*
Insulting to elves...
Insulting to elves...
Gargoyle
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I'd rather have only one player in my game that wants to play (or no players!) than a bunch who are "doing me a favor" or who find lame excuses not to play. People who make up reasons not to play, who try to convince others in my group not to play, or family members who don't really want to play don't belong at my gaming table.
As long as you have players who aren't excited to play, you'll have a poor game. They should be bugging you to run a game. Some may argue that a poor game with unmotivated players is better than no game, but I disagree.
(And this is coming from someone who used to convince his little sister to play as well...I've been there.)
As long as you have players who aren't excited to play, you'll have a poor game. They should be bugging you to run a game. Some may argue that a poor game with unmotivated players is better than no game, but I disagree.
(And this is coming from someone who used to convince his little sister to play as well...I've been there.)
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Rubeus Hagrid
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This is going to get me slapped, but...
To some of us, Elves, Fey, Dragonkin, etc, are very real.
As real as Jewish carpenters who walk on water and heal with a touch, or as real as a burning bush in the desert.
So she may be Wiccan, or Pagan, or some other faith where in effect, you just handed her the equivelent of a picture of Jesus with an Uzi.
To some of us, Elves, Fey, Dragonkin, etc, are very real.
As real as Jewish carpenters who walk on water and heal with a touch, or as real as a burning bush in the desert.
So she may be Wiccan, or Pagan, or some other faith where in effect, you just handed her the equivelent of a picture of Jesus with an Uzi.
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