Project Daedalus OOC Thread II

[Shalimar]

I don't see that its permanent, if it was permanent, if she did it once, for the rest of the guy's life, he would only ever be able to take 1 action a round. At continuous, I was thinking the ending of the power wouldn't be when she willed it (because that doesn't fit the SFX, there would be no willing it to end), but when Agamon willed it, or over time as it healed. The ability for it to heal at all means it isn't permanent. Besides, whether its continuous or not, she wouldn't will it to stop regardless so its the same net effect.

 

[Calinon]

Permanent effects can also be healed. Permanent simply means that whether you want it or not, you can't remove the effect. It would have to heal naturally, or supernaturally somehow.

Me blasting a guy and breaking his leg is a permanent effect, but he'll walk again eventually. That's like ripping at a guy's tendons and whatnot; he gets disabled, but he can heal, or be healed. I can slow too. If I got continuous and slowed someone, he'd be stuck that way, but if I want him to be free of it, so the cops can drag him off or something, I could cancel the power out. There are quite a few reasons to want to cancel a power out, not just for slow, and the ability to do so is the difference between continuous and permanent.

Anyway, just my buck fifty on it. Aggy will work with you regardless to work out the details of how you can get it.

 

[Calinon]

Hey, you could consider using snare instead of slow, representing him not being able to move, something he gets a save for each round to recover. That might be easier.

 

[Shalimar]

There are quite a few reasons to want to cancel a power out, not just for slow, and the ability to do so is the difference between continuous and permanent.

In which case Permanent is a flaw and not an extra, to do it as you are suggesting, as permanent, it would be


Extra [Duration]: Continuous +1pp a Rank
Flaw [Range]: Touch -1pp a Rank
Flaw [Duration]: Permanent (cannot end effect) -1pp a Rank

it would end up being 1pp a rank, I was just gonna leave out the Duration permanent flaw since there was no reason or need for the extra points on it. In this case, the SFX prevent her from removing it which would qualify it as the permanent flaw, it just didn't really matter since there was no need to gain any extra points from giving it the flaw, I was just going to play it as having the flaw regardless since the SFX lend itself to that.

 

[Calinon]

Hey yeah, I forgot permanent was a flaw. Duh me! I don't think you need the continuous extra even if you take permanent. It's just a flawed stunt basically... wouldn't that cost just 1PP?

 

[Shalimar]

Actually, only continuous powers can be made permanent as a flaw, Steve Kenson flip flopped again. I am looking forward to the 2 nd edition of MnM hitting stands within the next week, it has all the updated errata, including fixes to the errata made in January, so I no longer will have inked out margins.

EDIT: Meh, regardless of whether or not I need to take it to continuous before hand, it still costs only 1pp a rank meaning I could take an additional extra, but not a biggie either way.

EDIT: EDIT: actually throw on a damage aspect and it comes out even and that does make sense, it would actually hurt him when he is crippled, so:

Slow
extra: Damage Save
extra: Continuous
flaw: Touch Range
flaw: Permanent

 

[Shalimar]

Just so everyone knows, Rachel's personality is radically different depending on her form. I can break it down to make it easier if that helps:

Wolf> energetic, over-grown puppy type thing, always up for fun, and into exploring everything with her nose just for kicks and to 'learn' her new home

Human> nervous when in new surroundings, once she gets to know people and places she acts more like her wolf form, but she alwas has some inhibitions, her wolf form doesn't really have any

Werewolf> Agressive and super-confident, here were-form is super strong, and she knows it, she is headstrong to a fault, and wont back down to anything she considers herself dominant to. She is very plain spoken, she cals it like she sees it and doesn't care who it upsets.

 

[Mimic]

Can't you just feel the love???

 

[Calinon]

Heh, I kinda guessed all that from Rachel's various responses.

Feel the love indeed. I have no idea where the "trust" comes from for Misha.

 

[Shalimar]

Mostly from the super-charisma, that and Misha didn't just make up peoples powers. As far as the way he talks, Rachel was raised by nuns, I mean you know what catholic school nuns are like, unless its perfect its a sin and a smack across the mouth. Good God do I hate nuns.