Project Daedalus OOC Thread II

[Elementor]

Mostly from the super-charisma, that and Misha didn't just make up peoples powers. As far as the way he talks, Rachel was raised by nuns, I mean you know what catholic school nuns are like, unless its perfect its a sin and a smack across the mouth. Good God do I hate nuns.

Except that everything Misha has done so far has been to seperate himself from the group. Going off solo all the time. Being incredibly secretive about himself but expecting lots from others.

Keith should take the Super CHA and Leadership away from him and let him spend the points a different way. Toki plays just fine, but definately not for this character type. He is playing a Wolverine type attitude in a character that is designed to be more like Reed Richards.

Super CHA can be a negative instead of a positive as well. Making people pay closer attention to you. If you are an Ass you are now a Super Ass. If you project Leadership you are a Super Leader. So far aside from his historical chats with Aaron, all that has been seen is the Super Ass from these eyes.

Seriously though Shalimar, your character is the one stuck meleeing this thing. If you arent trusting the rest of us to keep you alive and take this thing down, that is pretty suicidal. Knowing nothing about Misha and taking him into a live fire combat is similarly insane. If Tyroc let him come with us without knowing what Misha could do, would and should get Ty fired as leader. Any government in the world would make that happen. For all we know, if Misha gets punched he could explode and kill the rest of us. Would explain his secrecy. If I were leader (and an adult) he wouldnt even be allowed on the plane.

 

[Shalimar]

Keith should take the Super CHA and Leadership away from him and let him spend the points a different way. Toki plays just fine, but definately not for this character type. He is playing a Wolverine type attitude in a character that is designed to be more like Reed Richards

Just because it doesn't fit what your concept of Super-Charisma is does not make it wrong. He is charming when he wants to be, incredibly charming, he talked down that kid in the mall. Just because he isn't always actively using his charisma doesn't mean he should not have it, thats like saying because Rachel is super-strong, she should always be carrying something heavy. Misha is just a private person, look at his background and you can see why.

I like the way he is doing it, I really like the character, he is based on the character Amone from Witch Hunter Robin, and he is nailing him perfectly. To Rachel, Misha is acting like a professional, he is acting with dignity, he isn't a loud mouth, when he doesn't have anything vital to say, he doesn't say it. And finally, the super-charisma itself, all of it together. Just because he isn't pulling diplomacy checks against the rest of us with his super-charisma is no reason to just ignore it.

Super CHA can be a negative instead of a positive as well.

No, it can't. If something is paid for then it is paid for, people ignoring the Charisma is like people deciding to ignore someone's super-strength when the super strong person is punching them, you just cannot do it.

 

[Calinon]

The only arguement I have there is that the diplomacy and fame of Tyroc gets ignored just fine. Misha and Tyrone are very similar in charismatic builds, only Tyoc's is natural, Misha's is supernatural.

Is Tyroc grating on you? Did you consider his natural charisma, fame or diplomatic ability? Are any of his points not valid? Or is it just you decided not to like him. Not that I mind; that's everyone's perogative. Everyone can react how they like to him, that's why there are no rolls between PC's. Just like how people react to Misha how they like. And that's cool with me.

Tyrone isn't secretive, quite the opposite, so secrecy about something vital for a team to know is a problem for him. Misha wanders off, always has that annoying, superior smile, hasn't told us about his powers, had a really weak background to tell us and only turns on his charm when it suits him. To Tyrone, it creates a false character. If I were an NPC, or if he had played it differently even, I probably would never react poorly, though I likely would have asked about his powers.

It's not a matter of not liking the character, it's a matter of Tyrone not trusting Misha and the newcomers like he does the folks he's used to. That and I sometimes don't grasp how someone interprets another character in such a diametrically opposite way than I see him. That's why I asked.

 

[Agamon]

Hoo boy, you people have been busy, yes?

Okay, Shal, you want the Slow apsect as a stunt and not an extra, right? That means no damage will be caused when Rachel hits with that attack. If you take it as an extra, you can cause damage and try to do the cripple thing. You can't allow a damage save for an extra, that's a bit beyond what an extra can do. Otherwise, I agree with the rest if what you concluded.

Misha is fine as is. He's not like Wolverine or Reed Richards, as has been stated a few times now, he's like Batman. Secretive, loner, not a great team player. But wouldn't you say Batman is charismatic? There are different kinds of charisma, as Shal said. Both Superman and Batman are charismatic, in two totally seperate ways. And actually, Misha has two faces, one is outgoing Mr. Popular that he shows the public, the other is the reserved, secretive private persona. I'd say it fits perfectly.

 

[Agamon]

Oh, right and Super-Flight. Well, for one, Cumulus flies by turning into a cloud, so no S-F for her. It's stretching it, concept-wise, for Aaron to be able to do it (in Fire form; Air form, I can't see it), in my opinion.

And yes, I use the endurance checks for long-distance travel. And yes, no Super movement during combat, unless you want to buy it as an extra. The whole reson it's a stunt is because it's really just a sfx means of getting from point A to point B quickly.

 

[Tokiwong]

Aggy hit the nail on the head, Super Charisma is fitting for Misha because Batman is charismatic and he is the loner of the team... I use the stats for my detective skills and to manipulat people... besides the way you see Misha is the way he was meant to be seen

 

[Shalimar]

Hoo boy, you people have been busy, yes?

Okay, Shal, you want the Slow apsect as a stunt and not an extra, right? That means no damage will be caused when Rachel hits with that attack. If you take it as an extra, you can cause damage and try to do the cripple thing. You can't allow a damage save for an extra, that's a bit beyond what an extra can do. Otherwise, I agree with the rest if what you concluded.

By the rules, you could add a damage save at the cost of 1pp/rank, its the same thing as adding dazzle to an energy blast as an extra, its just the other way around. But the real purpouse of it is the Slow anyway, since if the thing wasn't tough enough to shrug off a normal hit she wouldn't be hamstringing it in the first place, so it doesn't much matter either way since the damage would be ineffective either way.

As far as Tyroc and his Charisma, I consider Super-Charisma as being more dominant then regular Charisma. Tyrone's Charisma bonus is +4, Misha's is +9, so even If I did not consider Super-Charisma more important, his Charisma bonus is twice yours and then some. If I took your Fame into account, I'd take his Attractive into account as well.

I'll quote the benchmark system I use:

Misha

Superhuman (+9 to +10)​

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So magnetically charismatic, you may become a household name and could inspire urban or galactic myths & legends in your own lifetime. Your presence can turn the heads of legendary figures. Your bearing can instil dread or incredible admiration in people.​

Tyrone​

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Gifted (+3 to +4)​

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[/font]A strong forceful personality. You hold the attention of those around you. Typically, charismatic actors, pop stars and other public figures are in this range. Your gaze can be quite unsettling – or charming. People are certainly drawn to you. You have a definite air of authority about you.​

Now, while Tyrone's Charisma is pretty good, it just falls flat on its face around Misha​

 

[Shalimar]

Rachel loathes slang, she grew up in a place where speaking anything but proper English will get you smacked. She was repeatedly told slang shows disrespect to the people you are speaking it to. Now as an adult, this is her first Major job, they are a Government organization, they need to look professional, but someone placed as their spokesman speaks slang constantly, and that reflects on all of them. Speaking slang is not professional in the slightest, so it is sort of mindboggling to Rachel how Tyrone can brag about heading a department in a major corporation. That is what started Tyrone off on the wrong foot with her, the slang, thats what she means about professionalism, every little thing builds up into an image, and she is not happy about having the team image linked to slang and un-professionalism.

 

[Tokiwong]

I just like pie

 

[Agamon]

Like I told Mimic a month or so ago when the PCs all met, I figured there'd be a rift between the old PCs and new PCs, and especially Tyrone and Misha. This is kewl, glad you guys didn't disappoint