Project Javelin Cancelled

[Roudi]

He already has. Haven't you noticed?

 

[C. Baize]

I say spin the d20M license off to Vigilance and let him run wild!

That would be entirely too intelligent a move.

 

[TheAuldGrump]

The big difference here is that publishers can continue to make money, produce derivative works, even produce core rulebooks to supplement the d20 Modern rule set once Wizards' core book is gone.

For my part, I know we at RPGObjects will continue to support the game as long as the fans continue to support.

What you're talking about are fan projects. There's a real, substantial difference when companies, employing and paying for people's time (both full and part time) are able to profit off something, as companies will be able to do for d20 Modern.

For my part, I don't know what will happen if Wizards drops it. It might increase our PDF sales since RPGNow will then be the ONLY outlet for new material.

Certainly the people who only buy "official" product will turn away to something else, but those people probably aren't my customers anyway.

Chuck

I have watched fan support disappear, and fan interest wane on so many games that I have my doubts for the long term survival of Modern if WotC pulls the plug. I really wouldn't mind being wrong.

Though come to think of it, does Mongoose still have their Pocket Modern? Being able to find the rules would likely help, even if WotC does pull the plug.

The Auld Grump, the good thing about being a pessimist - the surprises tend to be pleasant ones.

 

[2WS-Steve]

I find this notion interesting at best.

The idea has been put forth a couple of times now that somehow Spycraft II is more viable than d20 Modern and will be even more so if Wizards drops the product line.

How does d20 Modern being dropped by Wizards (after many publications being printed) and the product line being sustained by 3rd party companies kill d20 Modern when Spycraft II has ALREADY been dropped by AEG (themselves a 3rd party company) for other 3rd party companies to support.

Sorry, I meant my original statement as a conditional -- that *if* d20 Modern based third party book sales dropped below Spycraft 2 based book sales, then d20 Modern might fully die.

But, as you say, that doesn't seem too likely given the way things are now, especially since the third party publishers have essentially built their own little mutaully supporting product lines.

My one concern would be if WotC let d20 Modern go out of print, then d20 Modern might not acquire any new blood. Though, WotC might easily figure that they've actually got the best of all worlds -- just keep reprinting the core book, which is always the book with the best sales, and let *all* the support fall to the third party folks.

Not that the current situation is terribly different from that anyway.

 

[HeapThaumaturgist]

With "nearly all" the 3.5 catalog being PDFed to DTRPG and ALL the Alternity line PDFed at various vendors ...

I doubt WotC would be so stupid as just to let the products become utterly unavailable. If they drop the line entirely, they'll still PDF it and put it out for value price at online vendors.

With the d20 and OGL licenses as they are ... I'm available to hire. There'll be a book on shelves to go with all the 3rd party material out there.

But I think killing the line would be stupid. They just need to shore it up and put out a few good solid sellers.

--fje

 

[AscentStudios]

But you do realize how snarky and/or obnoxious you sound right there, yes?

There's a line between pushing a game and being pushy.

Chuck

Well, there's the magic of the interweb for you. I had no intent of being "snarky," "pushy" or "obnoxious." The point of the whole living comment was that if d20M was canceled by WotC, some publishers - some - might want to make product for a line currently in print. That's it, no offense intended. I'll retire to my hole now

 

[C. Baize]

With "nearly all" the 3.5 catalog being PDFed to DTRPG and ALL the Alternity line PDFed at various vendors ...
--fje

Ooh! And a place holder for D20 Modern stuff at DTRPG, too.

 

[Ranger REG]

???

Why is everyone sounding (or anticipating) the death knell for d20 Modern? I can understand Aussiegamer's subtle jubilation ... ... but is everyone else that gravely concerned?

I'm sorry for those involved in the Project Javelin adventure path, even though it is not my cup of Earl Grey tea. I'm also sorry for the designers and artists for d20 Spectaculars, even though I'm not interested in buying this product immediately (maybe three months down the line, which means not in time to make the turn rate).

To be brutally honest, d20 Dark Matter may be the boost that d20 Modern line truly need. I know I'm getting this one.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

???

Why is everyone sounding (or anticipating) the death knell for d20 Modern? I can understand Aussiegamer's subtle jubilation ... ... but is everyone else that gravely concerned?

To those of us who don't have sales figures, it certainly seems that way.

To be brutally honest, d20 Dark Matter may be the boost that d20 Modern line truly need. I know I'm getting this one.

I agree, but even this isn't 100% guaranteed. It's also going to be difficult for third party writers to use Dark Matter material.

 

[HeapThaumaturgist]

To those of us who don't have sales figures, it certainly seems that way.



I agree, but even this isn't 100% guaranteed. It's also going to be difficult for third party writers to use Dark Matter material.

Ve haff veys ... ve haff veys ...

One hopes they'll decide to support this particular product with some additional material, though.

I, for one, liked the D20Future/D20Past concept ... perhaps not the execution at all times ... but it does allow for 2-day-notice genre games. "Let's play Ghost In The Machine!" ... and, having been in college and whatnot, I know that type of game is pretty common among the "hobbyist gamer". The rules didn't have to be GOOD ... they just needed to be THERE and easily accessible.

I do, however, think it is time for a solid run that would enable a popular "campaign".

--fje