Protection vs. Debuffing.

Road_Runner

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I'm playing an Eldritch Disciple, and I plan on using Divine Metamagic Persistant Spell to buff myself (Divine Power, Righteous Might, etc.) and then fight melee using eldritch glaive.

My problem is that I'm worried my DM might start throwing Dispel Magic and Break Enchantments at me once I start getting enough buffs to be annoying. I was looking at Spell Resistance for Persist Divine Metamagic to help prevent this, but this isn't viable because Persist Spell only works with personal or fixed range spells. I was also considering a ring of counterspells, but that would only prevent against a single spell, so if I used it on Dispel Magic I could still get debuffed by Break Enchantment or Greater Dispel Magic.

So basically what I'm asking is there a way to help prevent or make it more diffucult to remove buffs.
 

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How about the Reactive Counterspell feat, has a few pre-req feat but might help.

That would work great, I'm a little feat starved from DMM but I think I could pull maybe pull that off.

Btw, is there any other spells or abilities besides Dispel Magic, Greater Dispel Magic, and Break Enchantment, that I'm missing that could be used to debuff? (Sorry I'm somewhat new to D&D)

EDIT: I noticed that Reactive Counterspell is in Magic of Faerun, does that mean I have to ask my DM first because Faerun is a specific region?

DOUBLE EDIT: Can Warlock invocations that duplicate an arcane spell be used for improved counterspell?

TRIPLE EDIT: I just found another feat: Divine Defiance, which looks better than Reactive Counterspell, and doesn't have as many requirements
 
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I'm playing an Eldritch Disciple, and I plan on using Divine Metamagic Persistant Spell to buff myself (Divine Power, Righteous Might, etc.) and then fight melee using eldritch glaive.

My problem is that I'm worried my DM might start throwing Dispel Magic and Break Enchantments at me once I start getting enough buffs to be annoying. I was looking at Spell Resistance for Persist Divine Metamagic to help prevent this, but this isn't viable because Persist Spell only works with personal or fixed range spells. I was also considering a ring of counterspells, but that would only prevent against a single spell, so if I used it on Dispel Magic I could still get debuffed by Break Enchantment or Greater Dispel Magic.

So basically what I'm asking is there a way to help prevent or make it more diffucult to remove buffs.
Ring of Arcane Might
Bead of Karma
Orange Ioun Stone
Consumptive Field
Greater Consumptive Field
 

So I think I'll go Improved Counterspell and Divine Defiance. My question is can I used warlock invocations that act as arcane spells to counterspell any spell of that school of a lower level using Improved Counterspell?
 

Warlock invocations are Spell like abilities and from the SRD:

A spell-like ability takes the same amount of time to complete as the spell that it mimics (usually 1 standard action) unless otherwise stated. Spell-like abilities cannot be used to counterspell, nor can they be counterspelled. In all other ways, a spell-like ability functions just like a spell.

Unless there is an overule for the class of course.
 

Warlock invocations are Spell like abilities and from the SRD:

A spell-like ability takes the same amount of time to complete as the spell that it mimics (usually 1 standard action) unless otherwise stated. Spell-like abilities cannot be used to counterspell, nor can they be counterspelled. In all other ways, a spell-like ability functions just like a spell.

Unless there is an overule for the class of course.

Hmmm, I'm not sure. What if a given invocation says:

"You can use X as the spell"

where X is some arcane spell in the PHB. For example

VORACIOUS
DISPELLING
Lesser; 4th
You can use dispel magic as
the spell. Any creature with an
active spell effect dispelled by this
invocation takes 1 point of damage per
level of the spell effect (no save).

....Does that mean you still couldn't use this for Improved Counterspell?
 

I think the specific may overrule the general in this instance.

Warlock SLA's are not exactly like the SLA's in the PHB, since they require somatic components.
 


CASTER'S LAMENT
Dark; 8th
You can produce a break enchantment
effect (as the spell) with your touch. You
can only attempt to affect any single
magical effect—an ongoing spell, a permanent
transformation, a magic item, or
the like—once per 24-hour period.
In addition, you can use casters lament
to counterspell another caster's spell (of
7th level or lower) as if casting greater
dispel magic.

This baby is in complete mage ^^
Enjoy.
 

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