Question about Bluff skill

The_lone_gunman

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Quick question on bluff:

From the SRD:

"Feinting in Combat: The character can also use Bluff to mislead an opponent in combat so that he can't dodge the character's attack effectively. Doing so is a miscellaneous standard action that does not draw an attack of opportunity. If the character is successful, the next attack the character makes against the target does not allow him to use his Dexterity bonus to Armor Class (if any). This attack must be made on or before your next turn. Feinting in this way against a nonhumanoid is difficult because it's harder to read a strange creature's body language; the character suffers a –4 penalty. Against a creature of animal Intelligence (1 or 2) it's even harder; the character suffers a –8 penalty. Against a nonintelligent creature, it's impossible."


According to this, you can use a Bluff check to make an opponent lose his dex bonus against your next attack. My question is how this works in regards to expert tactician. If you bluff them as a standard action, and have no more attacks that round, he doesnt lose his dex bonus until the next round (assuming you attack him), and that would be when the extra melee attack from expert tactician kicked in correct? This was how I played it the other day, but one of my players said that the expert tactician should kick in on the same round as the successful bluff. I would say this would only be yes if the bluffer has an extra "haste" action that lets him attack in the same round as he does a partial action.

Did I do this correctly?

Thanks,

TLG
 

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Yes, it belonged in Song and Silence

Expert Tactician belonged in Song and Silence. Combine it with Quicker than the eye and the fight is pretty quick. Plus, it's the best way for rogues to take out Barbarians...

OfficeRonin
 

Re: Yes, it belonged in Song and Silence

officeronin said:
Expert Tactician belonged in Song and Silence. Combine it with Quicker than the eye and the fight is pretty quick. Plus, it's the best way for rogues to take out Barbarians...

OfficeRonin


Uhm huh? Are you sure you are responding to the correct post? I never said it didnt belong in song and silence..........


Lone Confused Gunman
 

The_lone_gunman said:
Did I do this correctly?

Thanks,

TLG

Yes, you did it correctly. Without Haste or Quicker than the Eye (which allows the Bluff to be made as a move-equivalent action), the attack could not be made in the same round.
 

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