Question....

[datacorrupt]

Alright, just a quick question. Since a healing potion must be drank what would happen if the potion is used for it's liquid and thrown at a fire elemental. My thinking is that pouring a healing potion onto a campfire would put the fire out, and since the chances of the fire elemental actually getting any of the potion in it's mouth is remote that the potion should do some kind of damage to the creature. I would also think that a vial of holy water would also do damage to a fire elemental even if it is miniscule.

 

[Nail]

...what would happen if the potion is used for it's liquid and thrown at a fire elemental.

Nothing, other than a destroyed potion.

 

[Darklone]

We loved to kill undead with that stuff... though that shouldn't work by the rules.

 

[werk]

Here's the thing, and it may make it easier to understand if you think of it this way... It's not that you use a potion by drinking it, or you must drink a potion to gain the benefit, it's rather that "Drinking a potion...is a standard action."

That's pretty much it. If a creatures expends a standard action to use a potion, there you go.

If you throw a potion on an elemental (probably a ranged touch attack or grenade/splash ranged attack), then by the time it is the elemental's turn, there is no way for it to imbibe the potion, "The user merely removes the stopper and swallows the potion..." He doesn't have the potion held or in inventory...where's the potion? How can he use it? Keep in mind also that this is not Gaunlet, potions are just a mere ounce of liquid in a teeny tiny vial, not a big jug full of juice.

Now, say, you threw an unopened potion at an elemental and it was ruled that it hit the ground without breaking, then the elemental could pick up the potion (move action drawing AoO) and then drink the pot. as a std. action.

 

[Nail]

.....and additionally: There are currently no rules for how much damage a small amount of liquid might do to a Fire Elemental.

<smiles> BTW, what does a quenched fire elemental look like? A wet dog, maybe?

 

[datacorrupt]

Would a decanter of endless water on the gyser setting do damage to a fire elemental?

 

[Nail]

Possibly, depending on DR:

"The force of the geyser deals 1d4 points of damage but can only affect one target per round. "

 

[datacorrupt]

But it's water, shouldn't it do more damage to fire or just put it out or something. I think I'm putting too much reality into my thought processes, but it does say that a Fire elemental won't go into a body of water, it can't pass it unless it can jump or step over it, but what happens if it tries to jump over a stream and doesn't make the jump check and just falls into the water. I'd think the water would act like lava for any other creature and start hurting the elemental pretty bad, but the elemental is vulnerable to cold not water. *shrugs*

 

[atom crash]

Alright, just a quick question. Since a healing potion must be drank what would happen if the potion is used for it's liquid and thrown at a fire elemental. My thinking is that pouring a healing potion onto a campfire would put the fire out, and since the chances of the fire elemental actually getting any of the potion in it's mouth is remote that the potion should do some kind of damage to the creature. I would also think that a vial of holy water would also do damage to a fire elemental even if it is miniscule.

Exactly how does the liquid damage the fire elemental? Fire elementals don't take damage from liquid.

Also keep in mind that "a typical potion or oil consists of 1 ounce of liquid held in a ceramic or glass vial fitted with a tight stopper." One ounce of liquid is going to have no effect on most campfires.

Even if a nonflammable liquid -- in sufficient quantity -- will put out a campfire, a fire elemental isn't a campfire. The two aren't made out of the same stuff. Fire =/= Elemental Fire.

 

[datacorrupt]

Exactly how does the liquid damage the fire elemental? Fire elementals don't take damage from liquid.

Also keep in mind that "a typical potion or oil consists of 1 ounce of liquid held in a ceramic or glass vial fitted with a tight stopper." One ounce of liquid is going to have no effect on most campfires.

Even if a nonflammable liquid -- in sufficient quantity -- will put out a campfire, a fire elemental isn't a campfire. The two aren't made out of the same stuff. Fire =/= Elemental Fire.

That makes sense.