Questions on medieval armies!

Mystara (OD&D) works like this. I ran a Thyatian (fighter-dominated) invasion of Alphatia (Wizard-dominated). One small battle featured an assault by Thyatian infantry against a position held by Alphatian boltmen - low-level mages armed with wands of lightning bolts. The Thyatians spread out their force so one bolt only killed one man, and were able to get into melee with heavy-but-acceptable losses and slaughter the Alphatian mages. Of course the Thyatians in this battle started with around 10:1 numerical superiority. Of course wands of fireball would have been a lot deadlier; for some setting-specific reason they weren't as common. Maybe the Alphatians had discovered how to make lightning bolt wands particularly cheaply.

Assuming level-distribution is similar and both sides can access minor magics, a wizard-based force won't dominate a fighter-based force IMO. Wizards are very vulnerable until they get 3rd level spells (especially Fly). 12th level Wizards can do huge damage, but are often easily killed by a 12th level fighter with a couple of potions (or spells cast on him) to enable him to detect & reach his doubtless invisible & flying opponent.

10:1 odds in favor of the non spellcasters and they just barely won and you are saying that a wizard based force won't dominate a fighter based force? If having 10:1 odds and only just barely coming out the victor wasn't being dominated then I don't know what is. =op
 

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Berk said:


10:1 odds in favor of the non spellcasters and they just barely won and you are saying that a wizard based force won't dominate a fighter based force? If having 10:1 odds and only just barely coming out the victor wasn't being dominated then I don't know what is. =op

Fielding that Wizard force cost a LOT MORE than ten times what it cost to field the mundane force - look at the cost of spell books, alone! Never mind thousands of gp for their wands in this instance.
And it was a fairly easy victory AIR, the Thyatians lost maybe 20% of their force but once they got close it was no contest. This was in AD&D rules, low-level wizards are more powerful in 3e of course.

In a world where a Wiz 1 costs the same as a Ftr 1, sure I'd pick the Wiz 1 every time for 'Sleep' alone. But they don't, unless you ignore all the spellbook & ancillary costs of fielding a wizard, vastly more than the cost of a scale-armoured mundane fighter with sword & x-bow. A Warrior-1 in leather with spear & sling is even cheaper.
 

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