Ogrork the Mighty
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If I add 2 levels of fighter to a goblin, does that make the CR 2 1/3? Or are there special rounding rules for creatures with less than 1 CR?
Quick Question About Monster CR
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shilsen
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The CR would be 2. Creatures with 1 or less HD have no racial HD and use only the class levels for such calculation. See MM pg. 290.
Edit: My answer was assuming you meant a goblin Ftr2. If you meant slapping another 2 fighter levels on top of the MM goblin War1, you'd get a goblin War1/Ftr2, which I would say still works out to a CR 2.
Edit: My answer was assuming you meant a goblin Ftr2. If you meant slapping another 2 fighter levels on top of the MM goblin War1, you'd get a goblin War1/Ftr2, which I would say still works out to a CR 2.
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Campbell
Relaxed Intensity
Extropolating from the above since Humans with NPC classes have a CR equal to their character level-1, I'd guess goblins with core class levels might have a CR of character level-1.SRD said:
I'd also keep in mind that if you simply add 2 fighter levels to the base goblin, you'd have a goblin warrior 1/ fighter 2 which could be rather wonky for CR determination. Fractional CRs are indeed a special case, espicially in the case of goblins and orcs which are more of a race than a monster as far as the rules are written.
Ogrork the Mighty
Explorer
Ok, so what would a 2nd-lvl Warrior have for CR? 2-2 = 0 ???
p.s. I'm giving them elite stats so I'm considering the base goblin CR of 1/3 to be 1 for convenient's sake.
p.s. I'm giving them elite stats so I'm considering the base goblin CR of 1/3 to be 1 for convenient's sake.
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Campbell
Relaxed Intensity
It should be 1/2, but like I mentioned before it is a fairly wonky implementation. An Orc warrior 1 has a CR of 1/2, as would a human warrior 1, and you are suposed to rate their CR down one level from their character level. If you are giving them the elite array I'd rule their CR to be 1, just as a normal human warrior 2 is at.Ogrork the Mighty said:
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As near as I can tell, the way the fractional CRs seem to work is like this:
CR 1
+/- 0 = CR 1
-1 = CR 1/2
-2 = CR 1/3
-3 = CR 1/4
ALL Humanoids are depicted as 0 racial HD + 1 level of Warrior
Creatures with NPC classes (Warrior, Adept, Aristocrat, Expert, and Commoner) and no racial HD figure their CR as [Class Levels] -1 (so, generally, a War 1 is CR 1/2). Especially weak creatures may take that "down" another notch or two (Goblins, -1, to CR 1/3; Kobolds, -2, to CR 1/4).
CR 1
+/- 0 = CR 1
-1 = CR 1/2
-2 = CR 1/3
-3 = CR 1/4
ALL Humanoids are depicted as 0 racial HD + 1 level of Warrior
Creatures with NPC classes (Warrior, Adept, Aristocrat, Expert, and Commoner) and no racial HD figure their CR as [Class Levels] -1 (so, generally, a War 1 is CR 1/2). Especially weak creatures may take that "down" another notch or two (Goblins, -1, to CR 1/3; Kobolds, -2, to CR 1/4).
