Quick question on a five foot step

Mystery Man

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The scenario is, you're in combat and you don't have cleave or anything like that but you have more than one attack per round. If you are in between to opponents that would cause you to take a five foot step to get from one to the other; can you in effect take a swing at one opponent and then take a 5 foot step and take a swing at the other?
 

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PHB p.144 "You can take a 5-foot step before, during, or after your other actions for the round."

Note the word "during". That means your answer is "yes". Thread over!
 


Cyberzombie said:
PHB p.144 "You can take a 5-foot step before, during, or after your other actions for the round."

Note the word "during". That means your answer is "yes". Thread over!

I can be a real moron at times....

Thanks!
 

Patryn of Elvenshae said:
Also, keep in mind that you can even do it in the middle of a Whirlwind Attack, as well.

Really? I thought not.

WHIRLWIND ATTACK [GENERAL]
Prerequisites: Dex 13, Int 13, Combat Expertise, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, base attack bonus +4.
Benefit: When you use the full attack action, you can give up your regular attacks and instead make one melee attack at your full base attack bonus against each opponent within reach.
When you use the Whirlwind Attack feat, you also forfeit any bonus or extra attacks granted by other feats, spells, or abilities.
Special: A fighter may select Whirlwind Attack as one of his fighter bonus feats.

Unless this has been clarified, I don't think you can.
 

It's in the Improved Whirlwind Feat (Epic)

IMPROVED WHIRLWIND ATTACK [EPIC]
Prerequisites: Int 13, Dex 23, Combat Expertise, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, Whirlwind Attack.
Benefit: As a standard action, the character can make one melee attack for every five points of his or her base attack bonus (including epic attack bonus, round fractions down).
The character cannot attack any one opponent more than once as part of this action. These attacks (as well as all other attacks made until the start of the character’s next turn) suffer a –4 penalty.
When using the Improved Whirlwind feat, the character also forfeits any bonus or extra attacks granted by other spells or abilities (such as Cleave or the haste spell).
Since these attacks are made as part of a standard action the character can’t make a 5-foot step between any two of the attacks.
Normal: Without this feat, using the Whirlwind Attack feat requires a full attack action, and the character can take a 5-foot step between any two of the attacks.

AR
 


Artoomis said:
Really? I thought not.



Unless this has been clarified, I don't think you can.

Why couldn't you?

You can take a 5' step in between any two attacks in a full attack action. A whirlwind attack is a modified full attack action which doesn't say you can't take a 5' step.

Ergo, you still can.
 

Patryn of Elvenshae said:
Why couldn't you?

You can take a 5' step in between any two attacks in a full attack action. A whirlwind attack is a modified full attack action which doesn't say you can't take a 5' step.

Ergo, you still can.


It's not a modififed full attack action, it replaces the full attack action.
 


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