Quick question on Wildshape and +Con

Bob5th

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I know when I wildshape my Constitution changes but my HP stay the same. But what if I'm wildshaped and get a Bear's Endurance cast on myself? Do my hit points stay the same or do I get 2hp per level?
 

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Christian

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Bob5th said:
I know when I wildshape my Constitution changes but my HP stay the same. But what if I'm wildshaped and get a Bear's Endurance cast on myself? Do my hit points stay the same or do I get 2hp per level?

I think that interpreting the Alternate Form ability to imply that other sources of Con changes no longer impact hit points is even more tortured than the interpretation that Ray of Enfeeblement taking your effective Strength down to 1 makes you immune to Strength damage from other sources.

Take that as you will. ;)
 

mcgeedis

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Bob5th said:
I know when I wildshape my Constitution changes but my HP stay the same. But what if I'm wildshaped and get a Bear's Endurance cast on myself? Do my hit points stay the same or do I get 2hp per level?


Per the 3.5 FAQ:

As per the errata for wild shape, despite an altered Constitution score the character’s hit points do not change accordingly. Does this mean that regardless of Constitution changes while wild shaped a character’s hit points are unaffected?

No. Any changes to a wild shaped character’s Constitution score that occur after the change (such as a timely bear’s endurance spell or a Constitution-damaging poison) would have the full normal effect (including altering hit points).

But it also goes the other way:

If a wild shaped character takes Constitution damage or drain, which Con score do I use to determine when the character is killed by being reduced to 0 Con—the original
score or the new one?

Use the character’s current Constitution score, just as you would for any other character. If a 6-Con druid wild shapes into a 17-Con dire badger and takes 8 points of Constitution damage and/or drain while in that form, the character would instantly die upon returning to normal form
 

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