race & feat combos that destroy my campaigns melee combat.

[Sir ThornCrest]

thats what I do I hit the spell casters with fort saves and the fighters with will. As an example this party also fought a beholder that same game night. The beholder is very smart so I played him as such he was hitting the spellcasters with the anti magic ray then bite them and next round he would move the ray off of them and hit them with the fort save rays this way the spell casters would have his damage minused from there concentration to cast ck. I thought it was genius. I killed one wizard (-2 hit pionts) turned the ranger to stone and the cleric saved from being dintegrated twice once by 1 piont and the other was a tie but the cleric had a bless on by then, DAMNER GOTTEM!

Thorncrest

Well, most encounters shouldn't have weapons. That takes care of sunder really fast. If you want to take care of him, hit him a will save spell, bet he doesn't have a good one of them.

What you have is a character really good at this one thing, melee combat. So, you have to mix it up some or yyes he will be too tough.

 

[Sir ThornCrest]

THATS THE FEAT HE HAS!!! if you read this thread beginning I couldnt think of the name of the feat, hammer on the head you got it thanks IT WAS DRIVING ME CRAZY I COULDNT REMEMBER IT.

Thorncrest

You're lucky. If he was trying to powergame, he would have taken the Combat Brute feat from Complete Warrior so he could Cleave through the weapon to hit the enemy behind it with the same attack. As it is, he wasted two feats on the non-existent (except in Neverwinter Nights) Improved Power Attack (you always get 2x the power attack input with 2-handed weapons in 3.5, and none at all with an off-handed weapon, even though you keep the penalty. I houseruled this away because it makes two-weapon-fighting even worse compared to two-handed). As for sundering, yes, its much too easy to do. Its pretty easy to see that, too, with or without high ECL Races and two-handed Power Attack, you can break most weapons pretty easily with Improved Sunder. So as a DM, I have an unspoken agreement with my players: If none of them try this cheesy tactic on the opponents (and why would they destroy perfectly good loot?), I won't have NPCs use Sunder on them (although if they challenge a Nightwalker with the Crush Item Supernatural ability, or something of that ilk, that's fair game).

Anyway, as for killing your monsters, it could be worse. He could be a Stonechild Barbarian6/FrenziedBerserker2 with a +4 Belt of Giant Strength and 40 Strength in Frenzy, dealing 42 damage per blow, three attacks per round (without a magic weapon).

 

[reveal]

IIRC the StoneChild is LA +4 and has 2HD (outsider)
Thus the character would only be a 6lvl fighter to be ECL 12
Of course outsider HD are great so this likely doesn't change much. Lose 1 fighter bonus feat and gain lots of 30 skill points and better saves. Also loses a few hitpoints (d8 vs d10)

You're right. It has 2 Outsider HD. So this guy should definitely be a level 6 fighter.

 

[jerichothebard]

Yah I know what you mean, I did have undead involved but as I mentioned the wizard and the cleric buff this guy up. That being just another part of this problem.

Thorncrest

As for that, remember - and keep very very close track - of which benefits stack. Or, more importantly, which ones don't.

 

[Sir ThornCrest]

We roll our stats he had a 1 18 which he put to str 1 16 which put to con and he leveled up to 18 with the +1 at 4th and +1 at 8th. And I am going by the RAW thats my point are they broken-sunder, stonechild this series of feats...should I in the future out law them?

Thorncrest

QUOTE=reveal]I have a player in my campaign who is a Warforged Fighter and is a tank. But he doesn't even come close to your player. How did they get 2 18's? Unfortunately, you've backed yourself into a corner and unless you want to raise the difficulty of your encounters, which would probably mean killing the other players too quickly, I would talk to the player and get them to change the character.[/QUOTE]

 

[Crothian]

We roll our stats he had a 1 18 which he put to str 1 16 which put to con and he leveled up to 18 with the +1 at 4th and +1 at 8th. And I am going by the RAW thats my point are they broken-sunder, stonechild this series of feats...should I in the future out law them?

As was mentioned this guy should be 6th level fighter and not 8th. If you are to disallow anything, disallow the race.


And you should be using point buy for stats, that will help you out as well.

 

[Tom Cashel]

So, not to beat a dead horse...but what rule am I missing that allows a PC to sunder a +3 or +4 weapon with his own +2 sword?

 

[abri]

2) And to make it worse he causes so much damage he downs opponents like bugs bunnies pitching 1 2 3 strikes your outta here. I mean this guy causes a good 75 pionts or so a round. I didnt exactly count while we were playing but I feel this is about right. The fully powered Merilith Demon with a Medusa template (basically a Madusa head) dc 18 or get stoned- was killed in 3 of his hits and he rolled with 2d8 a 4 twice!
QUOTE]
A few points:
75 pts of damage per round at L12 for a fighter is really not over the top, it could be MUCH MUCH more.
Demons have DR that require good weapon at the very least, so he shouldn't be going through demon easily. Plus all Cr 12 inteligent monster should detect the PC well in advance and boost his AC... A lot... And be invisible or other indirect protection.
For human opemnent there is a feat that negate power attack in complete warrior and he shouldn't be able to power attack if the AC is too high and Ac can be boosted to very impressive numbers!

 

[reveal]

We roll our stats he had a 1 18 which he put to str 1 16 which put to con and he leveled up to 18 with the +1 at 4th and +1 at 8th. And I am going by the RAW thats my point are they broken-sunder, stonechild this series of feats...should I in the future out law them?

Like Crothian said, use point buy. That'll help a lot. And using RAW is what makes this broken. Individually, each aspect (each feat, race, weapon, etc) is not broken. But put them together and you get a creature that is just too powerful. IMC, I never allow anything over ECL +2 and, even then, the players need a good reason. Anything over that just becomes too much of a headache.

 

[Navar]

Several other posters have already touched on the most glaring problem with this character. A STONECHILD HAS 2 Racial hit dice. So your dude has too many feats. I guess this isn't a huge problem as he has 2 feats that don't make any sense, but he should be a Stonechild Ftr 6, with 8+1d8+6d10 hit points. This doesn't seem to be a big deal (and will improve his will, reflex, and fort saves, but will keep his feats down. While he has 8 hit dice (about to get his 9th) he is only a 6th level fighter (about to get 7.) He has a +10 str (a +18 to hit,) but only 2 attacks per round (without magic or feats +18/+13.) Vs. most monsters this isn't a lot. At level 12 most monsters shouldn't fall to 2 hits (he makes up for the 2 big hits with +10 to his damage, but that is still only 20 extra damage per round.) There are about a TON of things you can do:
#1 LEARN THE RULES if you are going to DM. His +2 weapon can only sunder +2 or lower weapons.
#2 I don't know where you got those feats from, (nor what they do) but you need to figure out what they do.
#3 play to his weeknesses, he likley has a very low touch AC and will save so you have a TON of options to run. From what you said he has no ranged weapons so flying opponents are a great option. Shadows have been suggested.
#4 How is he doing 75 damage a round. If he powerattacks for his full BAB maybe but then his attacks are at +10/+5 (or +12/+7 with a +2) and his attacks do, on average, 37 for about 75 hit points of damage in 1 full attack, but the odds that his +7 will hit a chalange rating 12 monster are pretty far. BUT if you have a problem with this then just double the monsters hit points. You could give the monsters DR (in fact I am pretty sure that the MARILITH demon has DR 10/ Good AND cold iron. That should have given him some staying power.)

Just to name a few

I don't think this is a problem with the RAW (rules as written) I think this is a problem with the DM.