Races and Classes--I has it!

[Plane Sailing]

> Humans: Stylistically a cross between classical and Dungeonpunk. Medievalpunk sounds like a good name.

Lame. Sick of "punk" garbage in RPG (and companies wonder why rpg lost its market)

Don't worry, it's not really punky.

The art direction for Humans is that with their relatively short lifespan compared to the other races they tend to 'carpe diem', and are less concerned about whether all their equipment and armour match up, so long as it works.

I think it works as a rationale and as a direction. Almost all the human pictures look like 'adventurers' to me.

 

[Dormammu]

> The wizard section mentions illusionists and conjurers as possible upcoming classes or paragon paths.

Conjurer and Necromancer as a class would be good. Necro could have a "undeath" power source.

Illusionist would be ok as a Paragon path imo (a class might be cooler, but it also might be too little to base a 4E class on). Necromancer is IDEAL as a later path. Necromancers are traditionally always magic-users who later delve into the dark arts of death. Much cooler than a pure class where they are conjuring the dead at level 1.

 

[Enforcer]

I love that they put Weapon Master back in as a Paragon path. That was one omission from 3.5 that I missed from 3.0.

 

[Intrope]

Don't worry, it's not really punky.

The art direction for Humans is that with their relatively short lifespan compared to the other races they tend to 'carpe diem', and are less concerned about whether all their equipment and armour match up, so long as it works.

I think it works as a rationale and as a direction. Almost all the human pictures look like 'adventurers' to me.

What's curious about that is the only two other races actually *mentioned* there lifespans: Dragonborn (same as humans, but grow faster--than modern humans anyway!) and Eladrins (~300 years IIRC; I've already loaned my R&C out).

For that matter, gray elves (==Eladrin) were the really long-lived ones; 300 years is quite a bit shorter than older editions' ~1000 years or 3.5's 550 year span. On the other hand, we can dispense with the 100 years of childhood bit too (and good riddance to rubbish).

 

[RigaMortus2]

Dwarves
They're getting rid of the Charisma-penalty, so they're now equally excelling as Fighter and Paladins. They're still sturdy and resilient, as before. Ah, and darkvision is going away, because it makes normal vision too weak (since everybody and their dog has darkvision in 3E) and makes the job easier on the DM, since he doesn't need to describe rooms for the normal-vision and the 60'-darkvision and the 120'-darkvision guys separately.

I hope, for the sake of continuity, they are at least getting Low-light vision.

I like what they did with Darkvision in Star Wars SAGA. Darkvision basically gives you normal sight in darkness (basically all they did was remove the arbitrary range limit). So if you can normally see X feet in front of you when it is light out, you can see the same distance when it is dark out if you have Darkvision.

I like the new conception of dwarven women. The artist in the commentary strived to give them a more feminine look... and works pretty well.

Cheers, LT.

I wonder what the law is about scanning an image (art) from a book and posting it on the web for all to view?

 

[withak]

I wonder what the law is about scanning an image (art) from a book and posting it on the web for all to view?

There's a sketch of a dwarf woman in one of the four-page teasers Wizards put up for R&C: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4pr/20071218a

Find the link that says "Dwarves"; it's a zipped PDF.

 

[SCMrks]

In the write up about Tieflings it says they have thin tails so the art may be an old version that has been changed.

 

[Lackhand]

I hope, for the sake of continuity, they are at least getting Low-light vision.

I like what they did with Darkvision in Star Wars SAGA. Darkvision basically gives you normal sight in darkness (basically all they did was remove the arbitrary range limit). So if you can normally see X feet in front of you when it is light out, you can see the same distance when it is dark out if you have Darkvision.



I wonder what the law is about scanning an image (art) from a book and posting it on the web for all to view?

Yup, Low-light vision is confirmed for Dwarves.
My question is, is it still confirmed for Elvadrins, or do they get something new and different?

And it's naughty to scan-and-post, and besides, The Rouse asked us not to. While wearing a tie. Ah well, I'm sure they'll post an art gallery soon, right?

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

What's curious about that is the only two other races actually *mentioned* there lifespans: Dragonborn (same as humans, but grow faster--than modern humans anyway!) and Eladrins (~300 years IIRC; I've already loaned my R&C out).

For that matter, gray elves (==Eladrin) were the really long-lived ones; 300 years is quite a bit shorter than older editions' ~1000 years or 3.5's 550 year span. On the other hand, we can dispense with the 100 years of childhood bit too (and good riddance to rubbish).

Oh, I hope they "fix" the long times as child/adolescent for the humanoid races. I always disliked that, it seemed to be make little sense having humans and elves living side by side, but humans being grown-ups at 18 years, and elves needing half a century. I can see Elves considering mere 30 year olds still as a child, but this shouldn't mean that these "childs" aren't as mentally, physically and emotionally developed as 30 year old humans

 

[The Ubbergeek]

Personaly, on that account, I 'shadowruned' a bit and cut the lifespan of the longer-living races... One milenium for an elf, nah...