Races and Classes--I has it!

[Plane Sailing]

I'm curious, does RC give a sample of how classes are structured? As in, when class abilities/bonus feats are metted out?

So far all I know is that at 11th you gain a prestige path, and at 21st an epic destiny...in addition to your standard class abilities.

No mechanical details like that in the book, I'm afraid.

 

[Intrope]

Ah. Someone forgot to mention that lizards weren't mammals, and therefor by definition, they lacked certain features?

Classic.

Well, boobs (meaning nulliparous breasts--those present before first pregnancy) aren't a feature of female Mammals: they're a (delightful!) feature of female Humans only.

For my part, the 'every fantasy quasi-humanoid female has boobs' schtik is purely a convenience for Human players (100% of the games I've ever been in! ) to make it somewhat easier to think/characterize them. (And makes for hotter art!)

And I agree with Irda Ranger's thoughts on the tiefling art: those tails are silly fat, and the horns are really not well integrated into the skulls.

 

[Firevalkyrie]

For some reason, I'm getting a Trogdor vibe off the Dragonborn. I'm really not sure why but something about looking at some of their pictures makes me want to scream "TROGDOOOOOOR! TROGDOOOOOOR!"

 

[RPG_Tweaker]

Nope. That's what Gary wrote in the book, but it's not what the class was, or did, as a collection of mechanics in the game, which is why you had to give them Bardic Knowledge as a house rule.

With the exception of "scholar" the 1E druid class was, and did what Gary wrote in the description. As a collection of mechanics in the game they were indeed a nature priest, a healer, and (as absolute neutral) reliable arbitrators.



1E had no skill rules, so there where no mechanics to effectively cover class-related areas of knowledge, implied talents, or their non-adventuring function. There was nothing but what was extrapolated from the class name and a meagre description. It had to be assumed that a fighter knew about warcraft, a wizard knew about arcane lore, and a cleric knew about religion.

I knew little about Druids at that time, so I read up on them. From that, I learned they functioned as sages, which allowed me to assumed they knew about history.


My personal tweak to the Druid was only tangentally applied to the argument, and not intended as evidence to support my claim. It was mentioned merely because of an OCD that compels me to speak about "my solution" to the non-existant skill rules. If we were talking about any of the other classes, I probably would've mentioned the comparable "professional knowledge" skills I'd given them.



So, when I said, my 1E perception of Druids included all the things I claimed, it is all backed by the 1E PHB... except for scholar*, which was a non-mechanical implication of the official description in the book.






* Rather than scholar, I should've used historian as a better term.

 

[ShinRyuuBR]

can believe that fire elementals can be hurt by fire. What if two elementals fought? No way one could defeat the other?

In 3.5, only half of a fire elemental's damage from blows is fire-typed. The other half, plus STR, is bludgeoning. That's how a greater elemental beats a lesser one: its form is consistent enough to break and be broken. Not by coincidence, that's how the PC's steel break them as well.

What would happen if you dropped a Fire Elemental onto another Fire Elemental? Would the grounded Fire Elemental just shrug off the damage from the dropped Elemental, since it was essentially a ginormous fireball being shot at him from above?

No, the dropped fire elemental would deal crushing damage, since its a corporeal creature.

 

[Charwoman Gene]

For some reason, I'm getting a Trogdor vibe off the Dragonborn.

Well, Trogdor WAS a man, he was a Dragon-Man... No he's just a dragon.... but he is still TROGDOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lackhand]

Note that the crushing damage is very little: as I recall, doesn't a fire elemental weigh something like Small: 1 pound, Medium: 2 pounds, Large: 4 pounds, Huge: 8 pounds, Gargantuan: 16 pounds?

So, no damage, much shrugging. It's like being softly bludgeoned to death with feathers.

 

[Evilhalfling]

Races and Classes--I has it!

I don't - my FLGS apparently sold out by 6pm last night when I called them. Yes, I could get it somewhere else, but Im morally opposed to buying outside gaming stores. Now Im on hold for their second shipment.

I'll continue to read the exerpts here, and see if the wave of option changes, I felt burned on complete Psion, the prerelease opinion was positive, but it swung the other way in the following weeks. Lets see how this book fares.

 

[Evilhalfling]

Types exist independent of class - you can get reptilian aberrations, mammalian aberrations, and so on. By the same token, I could say: dragonborn are humanoids, not reptiles.

Yuan-ti, dragonborn and dragons have reptilian and mammalian features. Yuan-ti and dragonborn have breasts despite their reptilian features, dragons do not have breasts despite their mammalian features.

So is this why Bibblioboop the goddess of the Kuo-toa has breasts? That's bugged me for a long while. (1st ed dieties & demigods artwork)

 

[SCMrks]

I got the book last night and looked through it some, mostly looking at the art which is good. Some of my observations are:

You can tell halflings apart from humans because halflings now have corn rows and braids.
Dragonborn do not have tails but Tieflings have huge tails.
Dragonborn seem to add wings to their outfits. Some of the Dragonborn pictures have wings that look like kites or gliders attached to them. I think they are made and not real wings because it looks like they have stitches and seams in them.
I counted 33 pictures of females of which 16 have outfits that expose their midsection. Just on observation, I know sex sells better than practicallity.
Most weapons look impractical and cartoonish by being oversized.
I was wondering what that one suit of dwarven armor reminded me of and an earlier poster mentioned it, voltron dwarf.
There is a great picture of a female elf warlock in the forest that makes me think the fey pact warlock will be a druid substitute until PHB2 comes out.

In the human section a new god named Ioun is mentioned. At least it is new to me.

The Ranger description mentions the ranger needs a defender best friend in combat to block for him and healing. Sounds like the ranger won't have many hit points.