Races and Classes--I has it!

[Knight Otu]

On that: They had the high elves in the Feywild first - which have that fey lords of the Feywild going on.
Then they had the current Eladrin, who are feyish-inspired outsiders on Arborea (which has a Faerie-like vibe as well), meaning both had a similar rough concept (fey lords on faerie-like plane), hence one had to go.

So high elves killed Eladrin and took their stuff (i.e. name).

Cheers, LT.

I guess I can see that. That probably means that higher ranks like Bralani and Ghaele are dead, unless they are achievable through racial feats, powers, or perhaps paragon paths...

 

[WhatGravitas]

I will repeat what others have asked:

Ranger, divine or martial striker?

Haven't found anything about it yet. Bear in mind that the ranger only has a half-page (or rather third-page) write-up in the "Other Classes" section, everything else about him is from occasional name-dropping in the context of the discussion of other classes.

Cheers, LT.

 

[Irda Ranger]

I've gotten the impression that Irda Ranger not so much on the fence as looking warily at it trying to decide whether it's worth the time to climb up on it.

With respect to Races & Classes, you were right.

In 4e all classes are theoretically equal in battle prowess and out of battle stuff...

I want someone to elaborate on this. It seems obvious to me that Leaders, Rogues, Spellcasters and Rangers will all have "stuff to do" outside of combat, but Fighters (based on the limited previews) still seem to be left with "stand around and look menacing" or "take a nap." I've been trying to darnedest to think of something for them to do, too, and all I can think of is "build siege engines" or "fortify positions" or "train townspeople." In a campaign that had a lot of mass combat stuff, that would be useful. But most people don't play those kind of games, so I'm not sure what the Fighter is left with.

Well, hopefully Amazon will ship my book tomorrow, or at least Tuesday. I'm going on vacation starting Friday and want to read it during the downtime.

 

[Rechan]

With respect to Races & Classes, you were right.

Huh. I thought you were hugely skeptical of 4e in general.

 

[Plane Sailing]

but Fighters (based on the limited previews) still seem to be left with "stand around and look menacing" or "take a nap." I've been trying to darnedest to think of something for them to do, too, and all I can think of is "build siege engines" or "fortify positions" or "train townspeople." In a campaign that had a lot of mass combat stuff, that would be useful. But most people don't play those kind of games, so I'm not sure what the Fighter is left with.

I'm not sure if I'm remembering right, but I think I read something about 'intimidation skill being used to give orders', so maybe the fighter is also good at ordering people about?

As they said in 3e the rogue was less than stellar in combat because he had so much to do out of combat. The fighter was pretty much the other way around, being all about the personal combat and thus being given nothing to do out of combat.

If they have gone to effort of fixing the former, hopefully they will also have fixed the latter too!

 

[Plane Sailing]

Puts down beer, takes off beanie, t-shirt, jeans. Puts on suit, tie, cap-toe shoes and thinks... no sorry go buy the book.

For goodness sake man! Step behind a screen the next time you change clothes!

Seriously though - thanks Scott for giving us our first picture of a dragonborn (the mini) and your various responses in this thread. Much appreciated.

Cheers

 

[Reaper Steve]

I will repeat what others have asked:

Ranger, divine or martial striker?

There is nothing (as far as I can tell) that even implies 'divine' in the little written on them. For those of us who have long wanted the ranger to be the huntsman/stalker/sniper/woodsman--yay!

There's also a blurb under warlocks about the PHB already having a ranged striker and a melee striker, but additional strikers are good for party success, so the warlock seemed like a natural choice. (almost but not quite a verbatim quote.)

I take that to mean the PHB will have three strikers--ranger (ranged), rogue (melee), and warlock (arcane.)

The ranger blurb does start: "Precision with bow and blade..."

No mention of TWF anywhere I've seen... a quick art scan shows one ranger w/ a sword and a daggerish thing and three others wielding bows and carrying a single blade.

I would really like to see TWF having to be earned, like in SW Saga. That's what I'm inferring, but I know I'm also seeing what I want to see.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

The book was on the shelf at my local Book-a-Million. I skimmed most of it and loved what I saw... the Dragonborn look FANTASTICLY BADASS.

As a girlie girl, I loved the more delicate look of the female dwarves. Very appealing.

However, my first 4e character is SO going to be a Halfling! They're so awesome that my GM, a guy that usually forbids gnomes AND Halflings, was all about 'em.

 

[breschau]

Scott, if I'm not mistaken Najo runs a game store, so I think his question reflects his worry of not having it in stock for Tuesday's release.

I work in publishing so I might be able to answer what's going on. Most stores get their shipments a week or so ahead of time so they can put the books out on the shelf on the day of release. Some stores don't honor that and simply put the books out when they are received. It's bad form but lets threads like this happen. Same thing with the last Harry Potter book that some guy got shipped before the actual release date. The bigger the book, the more this bothers the publisher.

 

[Rechan]

People seem to go "Wow, this thread has made me want to get the book". I'm honestly curious how this thread is different from the other preview threads - I didn't see any of the about-face in the other threads.