Random Speculation on Psionics

It seems that the classes get two to three niches (brute rogue vs charisma rogue) (the three warlock pacts: star, infernal and fey) I can see the psychic power source having three niches:

Telepathy (Telepath) Attack: psionic blast, id insinuation, dominate person Defense: precognition (jedi-like stuff) etc.
Telekinesis (Telekinetic) Attack: mind blade, telekinetic slam, force missiles Defense: Force shield, force walls etc.
Body control (Monk) Attack: unarmed strike, graft weapon, speed Defense: mind over body, Dodge, heightened senses etc.

The psychoportive stuff should be the Provence of arcane along with the blasty stuff and the time alteration stuff. The crystal and ectoplasm stuff should just get dropped imho.
 

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Kobold Avenger said:
I see 4e psionics being different but not too different from 3.5 psionics, since the same designers are still involved.
Which means the snot and the crystals probably won't get dropped.

Crap.
 

LordArchaon said:
I think Clairvoyance and Clairsentience powers in general still have many chances to be Psion's domain. What we must forget are the energy based powers, and maybe also much of the Metacreativity. And Psychoportation I bet will be domain of another psionic class, maybe a roguish type.

Yes. Please, god yes. Dump the metacreativity and psychoportation and acid/cold/fire nonsense.

Psychic and force damage, okay. Charms, illusions, mind control? Absolutely. Running up walls and mindblades? That's cool, too, I guess.

But dump the Acid of the Black Dragon Breath or Energy Ray. Please, no Psionic X goofiness.
 

Stogoe said:
Yes. Please, god yes. Dump the metacreativity and psychoportation and acid/cold/fire nonsense.

Psychic and force damage, okay. Charms, illusions, mind control? Absolutely. Running up walls and mindblades? That's cool, too, I guess.

But dump the Acid of the Black Dragon Breath or Energy Ray. Please, no Psionic X goofiness.

Perfectly agree.
 



I agree that psions should have very little in the elemental damage department, since that is mostly the wizard's theme now. Of course, they can have a little bit of this, just as Wizards get a little bit of charms and psychic damage attacks. Pyrokinesis, which lights people on fire, and the like, would be appropriate for Psions to have. But not fireballs, cones of ice, and chain lightning. Psions should focus mostly on telekinesis, telepathy and clairsentience type powers, with a little psychoportation. Psychic warriors should focus mostly on psychometabolism type powers. This is all, of course, IMHO.

P.S. I suspect that crystals will be psionic implements.
 
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If there's psionic implements yes there probably will be dorje crystals, though I hope that tattoos also become psionic implements (sort of breaking the rules and possible balance on implements), since they weren't doing much as psionic potions.
 

i think the psionic class suite will break down as follows- psion as the controller, psichic warrior as the defender, soulknife as the striker (who kills the lurk and takes his stuff), and the ardent as the leader. this IS only speculation.
 

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