WotC Ray Winninger Steps Back From WotC

Former leader of the D&D team Ray Winninger has announced his departure from WotC, having "accomplished the ambitious goals we set". Dan Rawson was announced the new head of D&D earlier this month, leading many to speculate about Winninger's departure.

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"Sorry for the radio silence; I'm in the midst of a SORELY needed Long Rest. I have indeed left WotC, having accomplished the ambitious goals we set when I took over the D&D team.

Shepherding D&D was an honor and a privilege, but I'm looking forward to slowing down and getting back to a list of personal design projects. (Gamers, you haven't seen the last of me!) Most of all, I look forward to following D&D as a fan again.

Proud of the team I left behind; D&D is in very good hands: @JeremyECrawford, @ChrisPerkinsDnD, @DroidsForSale, @dtovar77, Liz Schuh, Kate Irwin, Trish Yochum, @aquelajames, @FWesSchneider, @MakenzieLaneDA, @amandahamon, Emi Tanji, Bree Heiss, @doctorcomics. @justicearman

@RPGRonLundeen, @BillBenham2, Rob Hawkey, Ben Petrisor, @Dan_Dillon_1, @EytanBernstein, Adrian Ng, Janica Carter, @chrislindsay, @TrystanFalcone, @mattchucole, Bob Jordan, @christulach, Natalie Egan, Hilary Ross, Carl Sibley. Thanks for being such great adventuring companions."
 
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Haplo781

Legend
I think it’s important to remember that whether you play D&D or M:tG, WotC is not your friend. But, yeah, it’s definitely the case that WotC is much more egregious with their predatory monetization of M:tG. And with the recent 30th anniversary edition product, they’ve sent a very clear signal that their target demographic is secondary market speculators, not players.
D&D makes less money than MtG but they have the same goal (500m by 2027). So whatever they're doing for MtG is on the table for D&D.
 
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Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
30th anniversary arghh!!! T-T
The one silver lining is we can finally put the reserve list issue to bed. Even if they did ever abolish it, we know now that they would price any reserve list product in order to preserve or even drive up secondary market prices.
 

Zaukrie

New Publisher
Oh, another good YouTuber, just so people don't think that I'm also giving into criticizing everyone: Sly Flourish/Lazy Dungeon/Michael Shea (who may have one or two more brands than he needs). He also has thoughtful discussions of things and he's not 100% sold on D&D Beyond being the future of D&D (he wants to see a space preserved for third party content as well), but he never runs around with his hair on fire and is happy to concede when he doesn't know something for certain or that he was wrong. That also makes him more credible in my eyes. (Plus, he gives really good DM advice, comparably to Matt Colville's, which I appreciate.)
He's good
 

Levistus's_Leviathan

5e Freelancer
I think it’s important to remember that whether you play D&D or M:tG, WotC is not your friend. But, yeah, it’s definitely the case that WotC is much more egregious with their predatory monetization of M:tG. And with the recent 30th anniversary edition product, they’ve sent a very clear signal that their target demographic is secondary market speculators, not players.
Oh, absolutely. Big corporations are bad for hobbies. If WotC starts trying to monetize D&D as much as they do M:tG, I'll drop the game and move to a 3rd party or previous edition. I was just expanding on your point that the M:tG side of WotC has been angering their player base a lot.
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
D&D makes less money than MtG but they have the same goal (500m by 2027). So whatever they're doing for MtG is on the table for D&D.
Well, what they’re doing with M:tG isn’t really possible with D&D, because D&D isn’t a collectible. Like, they could make D&D branded collectibles (more of them, I mean), that wouldn’t and could’ve have the same problems, because the collectibles aren’t required to play the game. TCGs are a uniquely predatory product because they’re competitive games for which all of the pieces are also collector’s items. And M:tG being both the oldest and most popular in the genre makes that combination superlatively exploitable.
 

GreyLord

Legend
Makes me wonder... did Radiant Citadel, Spelljammer, and Mordenkainen Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse not sell as well as expected?

I, for one, haven't purchased either of those. Not saying I never will, but they certainly aren't high priority for me.

I'd say it was more with some interesting things that occurred at various times with MtG...personally thinking outloud (Figuratively) on the keyboard.
 

MoonSong

Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin
The one silver lining is we can finally put the reserve list issue to bed. Even if they did ever abolish it, we know now that they would price any reserve list product in order to preserve or even drive up secondary market prices.
Nah, the silver lining is that I no longer have any compunctions about proxies.
 

Haplo781

Legend
Well, what they’re doing with M:tG isn’t really possible with D&D, because D&D isn’t a collectible. Like, they could make D&D branded collectibles (more of them, I mean), that wouldn’t and could’ve have the same problems, because the collectibles aren’t required to play the game. TCGs are a uniquely predatory product because they’re competitive games for which all of the pieces are also collector’s items. And M:tG being both the oldest and most popular in the genre makes that combination superlatively exploitable.
Cosmetic loot boxes on the VTT.
 


Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Cynical, me?

Are you cynical, or merely mired in the behavior patterns of an older generation, clinging to physicality (and the price structure of physicality) in an increasingly digital culture?

I don't mean that as an insult, by the way - this is normal human behavior. There are things I lament that I recognize are less about what is actually better, and more about resisting change.
 

teitan

Legend
Further cementing my decision to adopt DCC as our game of choice at our table. I was disappointed with the iterative direction of 5e and what we have seen of OneD&D so far and I am really not a fan of the tech approach being hinted at and with it looking like a Microsoft board room more and more I am glad we shirked away.
 








Whizbang Dustyboots

100% that gnome
A corporation may occasionally (or even frequently) make a consumer-friendly decision to build good will. That doesn’t make them your friend. They don’t even know you, much less care about you, except inasmuch as you are a potential source of revenue.
Oh, man, if you knew my workplace, you'd never mistake me as thinking corporations were my friend. 😬
 


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